Ok well i picked up a stock 98 obd2 B18b1 (68kmiles) swap and I was wondering what were somethings I can do to it to add some torque and maybe some top end power..? Not really trying to build it cause I wanna go turbo(jus don't have the funds yet) but I need a lil more power for now...any help is good..

thanx

 

well the stock rods and rod bolts dont like too much boost... usually you build the motor before you turbo charge it but i would at least get it balanced, possibly pick up a new clutch and pressure plate before you slap a turbo on it. have you considered running a ls/vtec setup? that will give you a lil more torque and the top end your looking for. a turbo kit will cost you close to two grand or more. is this going to be for a street car? a have a few friends with turbo cars, none of them use loud blow off valves anymore (not sure what your plans are). hope you dont either. its a hassle driving a turbo honda in CA. or turbo anything if its an import

 

Huh? Taking the motor apart and balancing the rotating assembly to get more torque? WTF are you talking about? That is about the worst return per dollar you can get. And who said anything about loud BOVs? Are you posting just to get your count up?

To the OP - there are a lot of build posts with dynos for motors with basic bolt-ons. Start there and decide how far you want to go down that path knowing you are going to hang a hair dryer on it later.

If you can afford it, putting a vtec head on it would give you more top-end and would be very compatible with a turbo upgrade later. You could even go with a set of 'stage1' cams and still be fine with boost.

Best of luck with your project.

 

Okay yeah this is a street car/daily driver so im looking to get it bar'd before any mods....and I do wanna go vtec but I kinda wanna show what a good ls non vtec could do....and is there anyway someone could get me a good link to a build that has numbers cause I haven't seen a build that was suitable for what Im looking for....thanx

 

There are LOTS of build threads with dyno numbers.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/all-motor-naturally-aspirated-44/205-whp-ls-graph-inside-pump-gas-93-oct-2176287/

 

"And who said anything about loud BOVs?"
......i did

look Texas top ramen, out here in CA we have a huge problem with cops and having loud blow off valves or loud exhaust is a great way to get the one times attention. those are reasons why turbo may not be such a great idea if hes going to be driving his car on a daily basis. stay away from that ****. your pretty funny guy, not sure if you have a reading problem but where the hell did i ever say balancing the engine would net him more torque? i didnt. learn to comprehend what you read. one other thing smart *** i been on here since 2002 and i have changed my account a few times since then buddy. i could care less about points. i dont know whats up your *** guy but im giving the OP advice in a way so his bottom end will hold up to his turbo. OP, not sure how settled you are on turbo charging your car. but if i was you i would get the block inspected. throw in some eagle rods or at least some arp rod bolts buy a new set of bearings and get my rotating assembly balanced, perhaps some new rings, maybe honing if needs be ( basic overhaul) all before putting this turbo on. i dont know what your budget is looking like but i would try and take care off the bottom end before i put a turbo on my car. and for cams if you decide to get a vtec head, a set of ctr or itr cams will do you fine if you dont feel like buying brand named cams. theres not really that many other ways to get more torque besides stroking your motor out (but thats expensive) or buying a tranny with a higher final drive like the s80. the turbo will be the only thing thats gonna give you that raw torque your looking for. the b20/vtec will get you around a 170+ hp 140ft/lb by itself. that may not be enough but buying the turbo without putting the proper internals in and taking the proper precautions is just a disaster waiting to happen. the most your gonna be able to boost is 10psi on a stock block and still it wont last as long as you like.

 

I don't know how much money you're working with but a Vtec head and some Cam work would be a pretty good place to start. You have to make up in your mind what exactly it is you want this car to be able to do in comparison to it's role, and how hard you want to go.

Best case scenario would be to gun for a Port and Polish, Cams (Stage II-III), Vtec head and beginning to lower the rotational mass around your motor with a lighter flywheel an grabbier clutch.

Throttle Body and intake improvements can accomidate this as well, and let's not forget a good ol fashioned TUNE after all of this is said and done can really draw some numbers out.

Try gunning for a Temporary High Compression set up if you're trying to go all motor for now and turbo later..if your money is uber right..Pistons and Rods would be a fine choice for some Torque and top end as well.

 

And punctuation, apparently. Seriously, un-wad your panties and take a deep breath.

 

i could care less about punctuation, this is not english class. seriously

 

not sure if you can bar a ls/vtec setup. and i dont know if you will find dyno numbers in this build thread but its a great thread if your interested in the ls/vtec conversion...https://honda-tech.com/forums/all-motor-naturally-aspirated-44/how-build-%22reliable%22-lsvtec-b20vtec-1676914/

 

Yeah well it seems like the only way to add torque is gonna be a lil too expensive for me right now...well what are some of the advantages of getting a aftermarket intake manifold/throttle body...?

 

Better breathing, depending on the throttle body better response along with better breathing..to big on the TB and it hurts not help..

Honestly if you want to spend money on just one part that would make a world of difference, just add a Vtec head..They are obtainable around here and most junkyards for about 300-450 bucks and it's a world of difference.

 

Just do some boltons...itll make more power all over the powerband and more torque.

I loved my 110k LS in my Civic...never had to go above 4k to pass or get up to speed with ease.

 

Oh okay..yeah I'll jus get some bolt ons like i/h/e and maybe a intake manifold and see how that goes...does anyone know where someone has a dyno chart with jus bolt-ons...or something simple like that.....thanx

 

Yes; they're right behind the 'search' button. ; )

There are a LOT of dyno threads on here, just search through the LS ones until you find builds close to what you are looking for.

Best of luck with your project.

 

I kinda looked didn't really find any relating but I'll try again...thanx man...

 

Try searching for 'b18b + dyno.' You can search within threads too, so hit up the dyno thread sticky at the top of the forum.

 

https://honda-tech.com/search.php?searchid=3766048

 

https://honda-tech.com/search.php?searchid=3766737

 

Thanx guys exactly what iwas lookin for....

 

Best of luck with your project.