air bags with racing seat?
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air bags with racing seat?
ok so i was talking to my friend at work who just recently put in a set of recaro seats in his gsr. after i was talking to him about me possibly purchasing a bride seat just for me, the driver, and he mentioned that it will disengage my airbags in the car. yes, he means all airbags. he is right or is he just pulling my leg? i just thought it meant that i wouldnt have any airbags in my seats like the stock seats have
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ok because he said it would throw a code, therefore disengaging all airbags. but my first thought was then why do all these guys with 06 and up civics getting racing seats and getting rid of there airbags?
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No that cannot be, no car maker is stupid enough to design a system in which a code for one airbag disables EVERY airbag. If anything it may throw a code, but no one has mentioned anything. It should only disable the driver seat side airbag. I don't know for sure as my civic is stock in every form. I would look over on 8thgen. A lot of guys run Bride's, Recaro's, etc, they would know for sure.
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Although there are ways to rewire the SRS system to bypass those individual components, which I would really recommend you not attempt.
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ok so i was talking to my friend at work who just recently put in a set of recaro seats in his gsr. after i was talking to him about me possibly purchasing a bride seat just for me, the driver, and he mentioned that it will disengage my airbags in the car. yes, he means all airbags. he is right or is he just pulling my leg? i just thought it meant that i wouldnt have any airbags in my seats like the stock seats have
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-accord-1990-2002-2/how-bypass-srs-aftermarket-wheel-2398113/
Same basic principal, it tricks the car into thinking that the airbag is still there.
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Re: air bags with racing seat?
Yep, I was about to post that - thanks rileyrat.
You'll want to test the system yourself and see where the resistor needs to go, most likely there's a yellow SRS connector located underneath the seat. Find the resistance of the stock setup (multimeter) and then buy a resistor to mimic it.
You'll want to test the system yourself and see where the resistor needs to go, most likely there's a yellow SRS connector located underneath the seat. Find the resistance of the stock setup (multimeter) and then buy a resistor to mimic it.
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Re: air bags with racing seat?
Yep, I was about to post that - thanks rileyrat.
You'll want to test the system yourself and see where the resistor needs to go, most likely there's a yellow SRS connector located underneath the seat. Find the resistance of the stock setup (multimeter) and then buy a resistor to mimic it.
You'll want to test the system yourself and see where the resistor needs to go, most likely there's a yellow SRS connector located underneath the seat. Find the resistance of the stock setup (multimeter) and then buy a resistor to mimic it.
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This is true, if any component from the SRS system is removed/damaged it will throw a code and disable the entire system for safety reasons. which is why you would have to take it to a dealer immediately if it ever happen, to resolve the problem.
Although there are ways to rewire the SRS system to bypass those individual components, which I would really recommend you not attempt.
Although there are ways to rewire the SRS system to bypass those individual components, which I would really recommend you not attempt.
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Re: air bags with racing seat?
wow so he was right... well that seems like a lot of work just for a seat. ill pass and just stay with my seats lol. thanks for the help guys you were clutch
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How does that make any sense though? What if there was a natural fault and for some reason the driver was lazy to go to the dealer and got into an accident. What you are saying is none of the airbags would work simply because one does not. That does not make any real sense, can you elaborate as to why?
If there was a natural fault, and the car throws an error light and the driver is too much of an idiot to have it fixed then gets in an accident it's his fault.
Hypothetically say the driver's seat airbag has a short and is faulty, light is thrown on. The air bag system throws a code but allows all other bags to go off. That could cause MORE harm than good.
Now the stipulation however is the passenger side, which to my knowledge is in standby until there is weight in the seat. But we're talking about the driver's.
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If there was a natural fault, and the car throws an error light and the driver is too much of an idiot to have it fixed then gets in an accident it's his fault.
Hypothetically say the driver's seat airbag has a short and is faulty, light is thrown on. The air bag system throws a code but allows all other bags to go off. That could cause MORE harm than good.
Now the stipulation however is the passenger side, which to my knowledge is in standby until there is weight in the seat. But we're talking about the driver's.
Hypothetically say the driver's seat airbag has a short and is faulty, light is thrown on. The air bag system throws a code but allows all other bags to go off. That could cause MORE harm than good.
Now the stipulation however is the passenger side, which to my knowledge is in standby until there is weight in the seat. But we're talking about the driver's.
I should say that disabling/removing any safety equipment that your car was factory equipped with is illegal. Now you are allowed to replace safety equipment with a better item, say you take out your 3-point seatbelt for a 4 or 5 point, well obviously you increased your car's safety thus not illegal.
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If there was a natural fault, and the car throws an error light and the driver is too much of an idiot to have it fixed then gets in an accident it's his fault.
Hypothetically say the driver's seat airbag has a short and is faulty, light is thrown on. The air bag system throws a code but allows all other bags to go off. That could cause MORE harm than good.
Now the stipulation however is the passenger side, which to my knowledge is in standby until there is weight in the seat. But we're talking about the driver's.
Hypothetically say the driver's seat airbag has a short and is faulty, light is thrown on. The air bag system throws a code but allows all other bags to go off. That could cause MORE harm than good.
Now the stipulation however is the passenger side, which to my knowledge is in standby until there is weight in the seat. But we're talking about the driver's.
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Safety needs an "all or nothing" approach.
Stock seats, airbags, belts with inertia reels, acceptable.
Want a race seat? Disable all airbags, add a rollbar (unsafe to have a fixed back seat without rollover protection) or rollcage, and a proper harness. Of course, a proper harness is not legal to use on public streets, since the US mandates a red push button unlatch and a camlock doesn't comply. Lets not forget to wear a helmet, since we now have metal bars inside the cabin.
Sadly, that isn't a joke. Reclinable seats are factored into the total safety of the car. Replacement of any single safety item, means the entire safety package, as a whole, needs to be redone, to compensate for the change.
And that total package is the reason my *** slides all over the place on track in my OEM leather seat. I'm not ready to add a rollbar and give up use of the rear seat yet, nor am I willing to reduce my safety (and risk my neck) with a fixed back bucket seat without rollover protection.
Stock seats, airbags, belts with inertia reels, acceptable.
Want a race seat? Disable all airbags, add a rollbar (unsafe to have a fixed back seat without rollover protection) or rollcage, and a proper harness. Of course, a proper harness is not legal to use on public streets, since the US mandates a red push button unlatch and a camlock doesn't comply. Lets not forget to wear a helmet, since we now have metal bars inside the cabin.
Sadly, that isn't a joke. Reclinable seats are factored into the total safety of the car. Replacement of any single safety item, means the entire safety package, as a whole, needs to be redone, to compensate for the change.
And that total package is the reason my *** slides all over the place on track in my OEM leather seat. I'm not ready to add a rollbar and give up use of the rear seat yet, nor am I willing to reduce my safety (and risk my neck) with a fixed back bucket seat without rollover protection.
Re: air bags with racing seat?
Safety needs an "all or nothing" approach.
Stock seats, airbags, belts with inertia reels, acceptable.
Want a race seat? Disable all airbags, add a rollbar (unsafe to have a fixed back seat without rollover protection) or rollcage, and a proper harness. Of course, a proper harness is not legal to use on public streets, since the US mandates a red push button unlatch and a camlock doesn't comply. Lets not forget to wear a helmet, since we now have metal bars inside the cabin.
Sadly, that isn't a joke. Reclinable seats are factored into the total safety of the car. Replacement of any single safety item, means the entire safety package, as a whole, needs to be redone, to compensate for the change.
And that total package is the reason my *** slides all over the place on track in my OEM leather seat. I'm not ready to add a rollbar and give up use of the rear seat yet, nor am I willing to reduce my safety (and risk my neck) with a fixed back bucket seat without rollover protection.
Stock seats, airbags, belts with inertia reels, acceptable.
Want a race seat? Disable all airbags, add a rollbar (unsafe to have a fixed back seat without rollover protection) or rollcage, and a proper harness. Of course, a proper harness is not legal to use on public streets, since the US mandates a red push button unlatch and a camlock doesn't comply. Lets not forget to wear a helmet, since we now have metal bars inside the cabin.
Sadly, that isn't a joke. Reclinable seats are factored into the total safety of the car. Replacement of any single safety item, means the entire safety package, as a whole, needs to be redone, to compensate for the change.
And that total package is the reason my *** slides all over the place on track in my OEM leather seat. I'm not ready to add a rollbar and give up use of the rear seat yet, nor am I willing to reduce my safety (and risk my neck) with a fixed back bucket seat without rollover protection.
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Re: air bags with racing seat?
It's true, the computer disables the entire SRS to prevent causing injury. The idea is once the car is in an accident, the airbags needed deploy, the rest are disabled so they don't deploy during rescue or the wait for rescue. Imagine breaking critical bones, lying there in pain waiting for rescue, then another airbag deploys and tosses you around.
I should say that disabling/removing any safety equipment that your car was factory equipped with is illegal. Now you are allowed to replace safety equipment with a better item, say you take out your 3-point seatbelt for a 4 or 5 point, well obviously you increased your car's safety thus not illegal.
I should say that disabling/removing any safety equipment that your car was factory equipped with is illegal. Now you are allowed to replace safety equipment with a better item, say you take out your 3-point seatbelt for a 4 or 5 point, well obviously you increased your car's safety thus not illegal.
As far as harnesses go I think Takata and Crow are DOT approved.
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I know Takata has DOT approved harnesses, but they have to be used in conjunction with all the proper installation equipment. I should of mentioned that DOT thing, knew I was forgeting something.
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Re: air bags with racing seat?
one thing that nobody's mentioned yet is that in the 06+ civic the position of the driver's seat determines how the steering wheel airbag deploys too; if the seat is too close to the wheel the airbag will deploy with less force than it would otherwise.
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Re: air bags with racing seat?
Our head rests also help prevent whiplash or serious neck injury during a crash too. They fold forward so when you head goes to snap back, it doesn't snap all the way back.
Honestly, our seats are pretty good for stock seats. Unless you track the hell out of your car, aftermarket seats are just to increase baller status lol.
Honestly, our seats are pretty good for stock seats. Unless you track the hell out of your car, aftermarket seats are just to increase baller status lol.
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