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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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what spring would you use with konis besides gcs. I am trying to see what other set ups people run with them before I make the leap and buy the koni gc setup.

i originally was gonna do kyb shocks, with tein s-tech springs, but i changed my mind
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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the reason everyone has GC is because you can select your own rates. it turns the yellows into a totally custom coilover. if you buy s techs, sure they will work with the yellows. but...you have a fixed rate and fixed height. if that's what you want, great, save money. if you want to be able to adjust, spend more. figure out your desired height and spring rate & get back to us
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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well my car is a dd, weekend auto x, i am looking for comfort over performance, but the car will get auto x'd every once in a while, and maybe a mountain run. but pretty much i need new shocks bad, cause the stocks ones are gone, and my mentality why go oem if you can go better.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by idrivesideways
the reason everyone has GC is because you can select your own rates. it turns the yellows into a totally custom coilover. if you buy s techs, sure they will work with the yellows. but...you have a fixed rate and fixed height. if that's what you want, great, save money. if you want to be able to adjust, spend more. figure out your desired height and spring rate & get back to us
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0) With a Koni/GC setup you still have a fixed (spring)rate, right? And other (sleeve) brands are evidently also height adjustable, and springs can always be changed, which brings me to:
1) How would a noob know what springrate to select.

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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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i have old school neuspeed race springs...ride great w my koni yellows..nice ride height also
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kristo
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1) How would a noob know what springrate to select;
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what spring rate you want depends all on how you use the car. If you want a comfortable ride get lower spring rates. The negative of that is that you cannot ride too low because the shock will bottom out. If you want the "slammed" look you need the springs a little stiffer so you wont wreck the shocks. The stiffer shock will keep it from being as bouncy no a low ride height compared to soft springs. For most dd vehicles i see that 350-400 front and 250-350 rear is good. How stiff the rear is also is big on comfort. 500 rear would be very uncomfortable, unless you track it. "slammed" cars run like 450 in the front and like 400 rear, maybe even more.
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by xsquizet
well my car is a dd, weekend auto x, i am looking for comfort over performance, but the car will get auto x'd every once in a while, and maybe a mountain run. but pretty much i need new shocks bad, cause the stocks ones are gone, and my mentality why go oem if you can go better.
cost. a set of used shocks is $50, konis are $450. what i'm hearing for rates is: "it's my daily driver. every now and then i get crazy on the back roads but don't want to beat myself silly with really stiff rates" if you're going to run a 2 finger gap for ride height i would suggest 300F 250R, a one finger gap gets 350lb up front and 300 out back. i don't have much to say on "slammed" setups.
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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I'm using H&R Race springs. I live in a bumpy little college town and ride with my Konis set at 180° of adjustment. The ride is impressive, and I it's actually less bouncy than my previous TEIN S-Tech and stock shock combo. The maximum adjustment on Koni Sports is 720°. I've come close to that much but have never maxed them out so they'll last longer. But I tell you what, even on 540° of adjustment, it's pure business.

What I like most about the Koni Sports, or Yellows, is you can adjust them to suit any terrain, bumpy or smooth. I learned not to ride with them all the way down, or all the way up, this will prolong the life of the shock drastically. That's why I ride everyday with 180° of adjustment. When I'm in Kansas City for a weekend, where the roads are much smoother, I turn it up to 360°.

There's one spot just outside KC where I drive with it on a little over 540°, they're 15-30mph zones if you know what I mean, with lush greenery all around, like something in a poster.

But anyway, back on the springs, my H&R Race springs have been a great match with my Konis, and were only $200. The best springs I've ever had actually.

Oh, by the way, I drive a '94 Civic and the drop is perfect. They say it's 2.5".
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by idrivesideways
cost. a set of used shocks is $50, konis are $450. what i'm hearing for rates is: "it's my daily driver. every now and then i get crazy on the back roads but don't want to beat myself silly with really stiff rates" if you're going to run a 2 finger gap for ride height i would suggest 300F 250R, a one finger gap gets 350lb up front and 300 out back. i don't have much to say on "slammed" setups.
Laughing to myself 'cause you must get tired of typing this all the time! Maybe there should be a sticky "I want a comfortable daily driver that doesn't ride too low, that I can have fun with on the weekends", lol!

Only mentioning this because I asked the same thing exact last week, and after all the research and reading all the responses, I will be ordering the Koni/GC setup with 300F/250R very soon 8^)
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