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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:09 AM
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How do you guys balance weight because your rear is a lot lighter than the front.

Here's something I know I can do
-relocate battery to rear
-cf hood
-rear spoiler
-front firewall mat (if that even makes a difference)

what else would you guys do?
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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ac and ps. you could run a fuel cell in the very back too if you felt you really needed it
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:14 AM
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My solution was keeping every thing in the back. I hate hot weather so AC had to stay. And mines a DX so no powersteering to begin with. And its my DD so as much sound deadening as i can
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:20 AM
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I would put a dead body of a muscle head in the back of my trunk. :p
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:27 AM
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yeah that would make it about 50 50 lol!!
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:27 AM
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how heavy is the power steering because I like to keep that. My car is a 93 DX and it has no AC
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:30 AM
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well to do it correctly you should get a non PS rack n Pinon or it will just mess up your Ps rack and pinon Depends on if your drag racing it or track racing. Honestly the steering rack would weigh the most mabey 40 or 50 lbs but not a real significant diff AC is a very small wieght diff but if its professional then its worth it but if its a DD then it would just be annoying with out PS.. take it from me
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:30 AM
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not too heavy. the pump is the heaviest. probably worth it to keep it. I just pulled mine so I just said it but its not really gonna help.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:32 AM
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lighter header, plastic headlamps, remove front rebar (probably too dangerous and not worth it). Lighter front LCA, but all that costs money haha.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 05:48 AM
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Adjust the suspension. Is this a daily driver? If it is then relocation is a bit extreme. CF panels, lighter wheels. Other than that just use a large rear sway and maybe run a staggered front wheel/tire setup.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 07:40 AM
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it's fwd, if this isn't a track car how much of a difference do you think you're going to see removing less than 50lbs from the front?
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 08:25 AM
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heres what i removed. no creature comfort but it still rolls...fast
Head liner
Floor matts
All 4 door panels
Carpet
Speakers
Seatbelts
Sound deadening tar
Firewall matt
Spare tire and jack
Heater
Ac
Ps
Climate control
Rear seats
Trunk carpet
Taillight wiring covers
Interior light
Door trim
Center consol
Foot rest
Exhaust heat shields
Passenger wiper
Glove box
Steering column support brace
Cut bumper support out (to fit bigger intercooler down the road)
Splash guard
Dash inserts
Heater duct in dash.
Wiper fluid reservoir
Torque mounts

Lexan glass windows
Carbon fiber hood n trunk
10lbs wheels
6lb Braille Battery in trunk
Fuse box under dash
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Rikaro
How do you guys balance weight because your rear is a lot lighter than the front.

Here's something I know I can do
-relocate battery to rear
-cf hood
-rear spoiler
-front firewall mat (if that even makes a difference)

what else would you guys do?
What are you planning on doing with your car? Since I don't daily drive my hatch anymore, and 99% of the driving I do with it is autocrossing, I pulled my subs and amps, rear seat, and rear seatbelts. My hatch veeery light in the back and have been very happy with the way it handles. I wouldn't worry about getting to a 50/50 so much as just shedding weight. I'm planning on going with a very small battery since I'm only worried about running the engine with it. I'm thinking about mounting before the rear "axle" to keep the weight out of the back. You have to realize that weight behind the rear axle increases it's polar moment which can cause some handling issues.

-Alex S.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rick_rabies
heres what i removed. no creature comfort but it still rolls...fast
Head liner
Floor matts
All 4 door panels
Carpet
Speakers
Seatbelts
Sound deadening tar
...
Cutting the roof off would help...
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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NO im not cutting my roof off. lol
i heard they make CF roofs. but they are caps not roof replacements.
and the metal roof would prolly help keep it stiff until i get a cage
we could fab up a cf bolt on dealy for the other 4dr. a hardtop like a S2000.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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[QUOTE] I'm planning on going with a very small battery since I'm only worried about running the engine with it. QUOTE]

braille batterys are 140 shipped from jegs
hexa small and only weighs 6lbs
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by thumper64
Cutting the roof off would help...
You laugh! ...but I found a "convertible" EG on ebay a month ago. It didn't have a top, a cover like an old speedster. I just started at it...
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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[QUOTE=rick_rabies;39397526]
I'm planning on going with a very small battery since I'm only worried about running the engine with it. QUOTE]

braille batterys are 140 shipped from jegs
hexa small and only weighs 6lbs
Awesome! They even make mounting kits for them!
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 11:47 PM
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s2kworks makes a full roof piece. If you were to rivet it in place it would probably be just as rigid as the previous roof if not more. you can lose a bit of weight doing this but its a bit much and quite a surgery(gotta pull windshield/ rear window). people say it will compromise the integrity of the chassis and this would be true anywhere else. However the roof is so flimsy as it is already that it might even help.

Is this a 4 door? If so I think you got the wrong car to do this to but to each his own.
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 05:19 AM
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I leave the spare tire in at track days, seems to help weigh down the back somewhat, really gets scary when the back steps out under braking
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