Hey guys, I am going to be putting a b16a2 converted to obd2 with 00sir tranny in my 99 civic and will be putting a tubro on it for sure. I am curious as to what the best combo would be for turbo engine parts and any other parts that may be a good upgrade. here's my goals

keep it 1.6l
make 400whp+
use 91 oct pump gas
keep ps and ac

what should I do and put in the engine before it goes in my engine bay, what turbo and mani and exhaust would be the best, I have some ideas in mind, but I know there are plenty of pros on this site with the knowledge to help me achieve my goals.

 

I personally like the spa turbo top mount mani, but I'd rather use what works better rather than what looks better, and this will be a daily driver so it will need to be reliable

 

no takers? what kind of boost can a bone stock b16a2 handle and still be very reliable?

 

Stock block is good till about 350whp although some have seen 380whp on a stock block. You'll have to find a manifold that allows you to keep A/C. P/S usually isn't an issue. I plan to make 325whp on my B16 Turbo but it's the biggest headache trying to get it tuned. Boost isn't reliable. I would stay N/A if I were you.

 

I appreciate the response, but with already having experienced a turbo d, I have to turbo the b that is going in, I may stay NA until I can afford ALL of the parts I want to put on, but I will eventually turbo. Iknow the SPA turbo mani can have PS, and assuming, by the layout, it can probably keep ac to, because with the top mount style the only issue should be the PS

 

Just get a ramhorn manifold from Spoolin Performance. Tell them you want it with AC. It will be a lil more but if thats what you want, then thats what you will have to pay for.

 

do a mini ram precision turbo sc60 750 cc injectors 3in dp 38mm wastgate

 

I fail to see how boost isnt reliable. I've beat the crap out of my car on the street and track and have yet to hurt anything related to the engine or having it boosted. So u must have some really crappy setup or something cause there are plenty of people that have turbo setup's running strong in their cars the same way as I..

 

there is a difference between running and reliable, show me someone that has put well over 300000Km on a boosted civic, without doiong anything but regulkar maintenance on the engine, and I wasn't saying boost isn't reliable, but I am putting an engine which I don't know the internal shape of, so putting it up to 15psi might not be the best idea, I am just saying I don't want my wife to go out in the car and have to call me because something is going wrong or is malfunctioning or something broke. half-assed turbo setups aren't extremly reliable, they may run ok for the most part, but stuff does go wrong

 

I ran my bone stock b16 at 8psi for over a year. Daily driven even during -20 degree days. I made 240whp on a dynojet. I ran a full peakboost kit ramhorn manifold, 57 trim t3/t4 turbo, 38mm wastegate, 550 cc. It's not the most power but it was my daily driver and it had enough power to beat alot of cars.

 

things go wrong regardless sometimes.
300,000 on any engine at some point will need more than maintance...

 

but you bought an expensive kit, not only am I not spending that amount of money yet, but I will be pieceing my kit together anyway.

absolutely, and I understand that, but I am not putting alot of money into it and I don't want to put in crap parts.




I was just saying one of my goals is to put in reliable parts so I feel better when my wife takes the car somewhere, and the fact that a pile of ebay parts in your engine bay and especially in your turbo kit could easily leave you at the side of the road with a mess (not to say ebay doesn't have any good parts, there are some decent parts there).

 

GTFO of here you piece of ****, this is the god damn FI Section, if your going to be telling people to keep it NA get your *** back to the NA section.

I will say it one last time, boost does not make a motor unsafe/less reliable/prone to problems etc... Show me 2 Honda's making 350whp, one NA and one Turbo, now you tell me which one you think is under more stress? Horsepower is what is hard on a motor, I personally think 350whp at 8500rpm is a lot safer than 260whp at 9800rpm...

 

Op is so off base. Yes a CHEAP, HALF-*** turbo kit like your trying to put on your wifes car is gonna be a big piece of ****. OMG!! WOW! Who knew? If you dont have the money to do it right, then why do it at all? OR maybe figure out which parts are junk and get better parts??!?

Im betting that OP is someone who thinks ctr pistons & cams in a B16 = fast!!!

 

it's my car, not my wife's and all I was saying was that I'd prefer if any part suggestions were good partsand not parts that would make it less reliable. my point here is asking for some advice from people who know what they are doing not people like you who just attck and twist around what I am saying to make me sound stupid. I was simply asking if there is a certain thing that is more prone to breaking under boost in the b-series that should be replaced before the engine goes in. read the posts dumbass I am asking for advice on which parts are good and which parts are the most key to replace. and I don't care what anyone says the moment you do something to engine that it was never intended to do (like see boost) you will weaken it, maybe not alot, but it will be weaker period.

 

Tell that to the guy with the 700hp s2000 thats stock. U really dont know what you're talking about and it shows. Its the backyard tuner guys that blow up motors left and right that make everyone so timid. If you put good pistons & rods in a b-series (and have it built right!) then I dont see anything wrong with make 500+ for a long time without issues (tranny & clutches dont count)

BTW u dont have to care. Its been proven. U just havent been around long enough and didnt bother to SEARCH any to see what people have done in the past.

 

I can't change the damn channel on here, my **** must be broken. All I see is Soap Opera Drama...

 

[QUOTE=drummerdude;39236620]but you bought an expensive kit, not only am I not spending that amount of money yet, but I will be pieceing my kit together anyway.



absolutely, and I understand that, but I am not putting alot of money into it and I don't want to put in crap parts.


I bought my complete peakboost kit used. It was inexpensive had all the quality parts and everything fit together nicely. Since this is your first turbo car I would go that route. I didnt do anything to prep my engine other than compression test and spark plugs. I already had a stage 3 clutch in.

I don't know how much you are looking at spending, but if you want quality parts, ecu and tune it might be more than your willing to spend. I'm glad I spent the extra money for quality parts, hondata and got a nice tune. Never had a problem and I beat on it every day.

 

it's not my forst turbo car, and it's not my first turbo civic, it will be my first turbo b series though, and the last kit I pieced together completely myself and installed it my self, I don't have the money to do a proper turbo kit, but if someone said the head studs are the weak link, I can tackle those first, those were the weak link on my d16y8 that was turbo'd. but if I do have the funds to piece it together again I would prefer to get any weak links out before the motor is in an engine bay. thanks for the replies though (those who had nice replies).

 

PFAB Makes a nice log manifold that allows you to keep your Power Steering and A/C. It's 304 Stainless, thick flanges and a lifetime warranty. They sell for about $300 though. I'd recommend a sleeved block for 400whp and if you wanted to stay on 91 pump gas at 400whp you'd need some sort of water/meth injection. 3" exhaust is the way to go, I run 4" on my RX7.

 

wow, way to be an *******, I am asking for advice like that, see was that so hard, good pistons and rods and have it built right. I don't care what you say, putting a turbocharger a=on an engine that was never designed to see boost will make it less relaible, maybe not alot less, but it will be less reliable. I know alot more than I am letting on, and it shows how cocky some h-t members are, they think they know everything. is it really that hard to just answer the question(s) I have asked, why do you have to be an *******. I joined the hondata forum today and asked some really noob questions, and instead of useless dumb *** responses like you are giving, I got an honest answer to the questions I asked, no ******* posts, just answers, so why don't you take your 2 cents and put it where the sun don't shine and only post if you are going to be helpful and actually answer my question.