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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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gsr motor with 10lbs. some say dont bother with swapping to a b16(sitting on my garage floor) i know the gears are shorter in the b16, but the final drive is gay. which one should i put the lsd in?
i thought about this. put gears 1-2-3 from the b16 in the gsr tranny and the lsd. yeah good idea?
and put the 1-2-3 gears from gsr into b16 trany and sell it or keep it when i go to 20lbs and blow trannys up?
this question is related to a turbo so thats why i ask here
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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b16 gears are kinda short for a boosted car, i would leave the gsr trans in there and not touch it. IMO
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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so keep the b16 for a backup and put the lsd in the gsr tranny? il will have traction problems soon
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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Stick with the GSR trannie..
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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im running b16 1-3 & gsr 4&5th just for the mph.. working pretty good, and doing 129 in the 1/4.. Just gotta be fast with the shifting. The gears come up quick.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 04:43 AM
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k thanx
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 06:19 AM
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Op the final drive is the same in both transmissions.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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gsr trans all day
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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either will work fine, the b16 will have less traction but will accelarate faster

i personally like a gsr for an all around daily driver/track car and the lsd is a must
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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go wit gsr
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by EARLdaSQUIRREL
either will work fine, the b16 will have less traction but will accelarate faster

i personally like a gsr for an all around daily driver/track car and the lsd is a must
How can you have less traction but accelerate faster?
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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How can you have less traction but accelerate faster?
when you have good slicks/tires you will accelerate faster with b16 than you would with a gsr trans
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by EARLdaSQUIRREL
when you have good slicks/tires you will accelerate faster with b16 than you would with a gsr trans
Then you wouldn't have less traction, now would you?
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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my lsd b16 tranny is just fine in my boosted car...just sucks on the freeway
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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B16 hands down rips on a boosted car, cant go wrong with either.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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low hp (250-400) B16 gear box

mid-high hp(400+) GSR gear box
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Default Re: b16 tranny or gsr tranny?

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Then you wouldn't have less traction, now would you?
are you trying to **** me off?? on street tires the b16 will be slower due to spinning through the gears with anythign over 300whp

on slicks/radials the b16 will be faster than a gsr with the same wheels/tires

what rpm you take the car to, the size of your tires as well as a couple other factors all come into play
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by EARLdaSQUIRREL
are you trying to **** me off?? on street tires the b16 will be slower due to spinning through the gears with anythign over 300whp

on slicks/radials the b16 will be faster than a gsr with the same wheels/tires

what rpm you take the car to, the size of your tires as well as a couple other factors all come into play
No. I was simply pointing out that one must take into consideration that simply because something is geared shorter doesn't mean its going to make your car faster. More power to the ground = more traction issues. Plain and simple. Your statement about making your car faster, but increasing wheel spin just didn't make sense. I was just trying to clear it up. Relax.
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Hybrid96EK
No. I was simply pointing out that one must take into consideration that simply because something is geared shorter doesn't mean its going to make your car faster. More power to the ground = more traction issues. Plain and simple. Your statement about making your car faster, but increasing wheel spin just didn't make sense. I was just trying to clear it up. Relax.
In my experiences, wheelspin is going to happen on a 350+hp setup with either tranny. I think you shouldnt gear your car down due to wheelspin, but instead make adjustments and/or add parts to aid in traction so that you can benefit from shorter gearing. The shorter gearing will get you into boost faster, will have less RPM drop in shifts and make the car easier to accelerate around town in traffic. I would like to try a GSR trans in my car again but I know I would be pulling it back out for a B16.
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 96 GSR-T
In my experiences, wheelspin is going to happen on a 350+hp setup with either tranny. I think you shouldnt gear your car down due to wheelspin, but instead make adjustments and/or add parts to aid in traction so that you can benefit from shorter gearing. The shorter gearing will get you into boost faster, will have less RPM drop in shifts and make the car easier to accelerate around town in traffic. I would like to try a GSR trans in my car again but I know I would be pulling it back out for a B16.
wrd. Just put a ls or gsr 5th in there to make it nice for cruizing
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 07:04 AM
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10.10 with ITR tranny in my car. Don't bandaid the car by putting in a logger geared tranny. Get the power to the ground. If you are out of rpm or tire, then get the longer geared tranny.

For 90% of the people on here that wont bother doing that, keep the gsr tranny.
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverEk3dr
wrd. Just put a ls or gsr 5th in there to make it nice for cruizing
I got a GSR 5th in mine
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 07:45 AM
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I would say stay with the gsr tranny since you have it. If it blows, just use the b16. I will be using the b17 gsr tranny in my boosted set up, so either one will work! Short gears FTW
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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When I finish building my ITR I hope to keep the factory trans. Looking to make 400 WHP at max. I'll say with 260 at the wheels SC'd 1st and 2nd gear was useless, 3rd and 4th had decent traction. I'm sure with the turbo it will be the other way around.
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