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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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Ok so in the process of swapping my B16 out of my hatch into my coupe I came across a little situation...

Ok so my car never overheats, no white smoke out the exhaust during idle or full throttle, car doesnt feel sluggish or anything like that, no bubbles in my radiator fluid when i leave my rad cap off and let car run and my oil isnt milky at all..

When the coolant was draining from the hatch i noticed oil in it.. maybe a quarter of a quart maybe even less in there and it didnt come out until it was almost done draining...

When i changed my oil right after i drained the coolant it was just under 4 full qquarts that came out

So im just wondering if theres any other way that oil could get into my coolant without a blown headgasket.. i did a few searches and my car shows no other symptoms of a blown headgasket besides the oil in the coolant

I have a leaky cam seal and i think that my rear main seal might be leaking a little bit but other than that motor is solid with low miles and i dont beat on it...

any help / suggestions of other things to check would be a huge help..

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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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put it in the car. put fresh fluids in and drive it around for 2 miles or so and check the fluids.
its better than "take off the head and check"
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 09:07 AM
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the only other option i'm aware of besides the headgasket leaking oil into the coolant is a crack in the block or the head (or the porosity phenomenon, but that seems to be on certain engine models only).
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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put it in the car. put fresh fluids in and drive it around for 2 miles or so and check the fluids.
its better than "take off the head and check"
yea its in the car now and it will be on the road tomorrow so im just going to drive it and then drain the coolant again and see what the deal is

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the only other option i'm aware of besides the headgasket leaking oil into the coolant is a crack in the block or the head (or the porosity phenomenon, but that seems to be on certain engine models only).
cracked block or head isnt what i wanted to see and porosity phenomenon?? no idea what that is hahah
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 12:36 PM
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MIGHT HAVE A HAIRLINE CRACK IN BLOCK OR HEAD JUST MY OPINION BUT HOPFULLY IM WRONG
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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cracked block or head isnt what i wanted to see and porosity phenomenon?? no idea what that is hahah
yeah that's never a fun one. i hope i'm wrong for your sake.

the porosity thing had something to do with a flaw in the block casting.. i've only been told about it, never seen it first hand. the way it was described to me (by a highly experienced Acura master tech...): you would look at the side of the block and it would look like it was sweating coolant! no visible crack or anything.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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MIGHT HAVE A HAIRLINE CRACK IN BLOCK OR HEAD JUST MY OPINION BUT HOPFULLY IM WRONG
i wouldnt notice a power loss or anything with a cracked block or head.. like a loss of compression or something?
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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yeah that's never a fun one. i hope i'm wrong for your sake.

the porosity thing had something to do with a flaw in the block casting.. i've only been told about it, never seen it first hand. the way it was described to me (by a highly experienced Acura master tech...): you would look at the side of the block and it would look like it was sweating coolant! no visible crack or anything.
hmm and that would cause oil to get into the coolant?
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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Binghamton huh? I used to live there. Hydrolocked my car in the flood a few years back. Do you guys still meet up in JC on the weekends? Free bump for you.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 03:01 AM
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hmm and that would cause oil to get into the coolant?
if it were in an area between an oil passage and water jacket... nothing more than a theory though.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 05:56 AM
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Binghamton huh? I used to live there. Hydrolocked my car in the flood a few years back. Do you guys still meet up in JC on the weekends? Free bump for you.
nah they shut that down couple years ago and i know like four people who hydrolocked their cars during that flood.. some kid i worked with had just bought an 89 Z28 camaro like 3 weeks before the flood and ended up blowing a rod through the side of the block hahah.. what kind of car did you have??
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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Sometimes it can be a small leak, I never had major issues when my headgasket was leaking but I did have dispappearing coolant. Once it was replaced my coolant stop disappearing.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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why you don't do radiator compression test? At least you can confirm there is a leak.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Lasky
nah they shut that down couple years ago and i know like four people who hydrolocked their cars during that flood.. some kid i worked with had just bought an 89 Z28 camaro like 3 weeks before the flood and ended up blowing a rod through the side of the block hahah.. what kind of car did you have??
Red Integra.. I miss those days. Bing girls are easy as 1-2-3 lol. Too bad they shut the street races down. Nothing to do in that town now lol.

Bump for you to hopefully figure it out man.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 06:01 AM
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Sometimes it can be a small leak, I never had major issues when my headgasket was leaking but I did have dispappearing coolant. Once it was replaced my coolant stop disappearing.
thats what im hoping for

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why you don't do radiator compression test? At least you can confirm there is a leak.
not sure how to do that

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Red Integra.. I miss those days. Bing girls are easy as 1-2-3 lol. Too bad they shut the street races down. Nothing to do in that town now lol.

Bump for you to hopefully figure it out man.
yea man **** is wack up here now and i hear you on the girls hahaha
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Lasky
not sure how to do that
Take it to the Midas in JC. I had them do one for me a few years ago. Really quick and cheap test.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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sounds like a plan.. just gotta get this thing on the road.. dmv is givin me alot of trouble with this bill of sales bc it was emailed to me and not to them so there claiming that i altered it aka fraud.. sooo long story short i have to go to another dmv with different paper work that i did forge signatures and lowered the purchase price (if they can be ******** so can i hahaha) on just to get this thing on the road.... **** the DMV they always make things more difficult than they should be!!!
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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thanks for all the opinions and help guys... hoping for no cracked head or block! hopefully just a stupid headgasket aka $80 replacement instead of $600 replacement haha

-Lasky
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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Can you swap a headgasket on your own? It's definitely not something for a beginner (dunno your experience)
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 05:04 AM
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yea im pretty sure i can handle it.. ive taken a few heads off of motors before.. just never replaced the headgasket when i was doing it
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