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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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i have a d15b2 block with a z6 head on it (mini me) would it be worth boosting this motor or should i go lsvtec.. someone is selling me a lsvtec for 800 is it worth trying to boost the sohc or just swapping the dohc vtec..... i need some advice.. also with the mini me swap wwhat is my compression ratio looking like?
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 07:50 AM
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are you daily driving it? what are your HP goals? Are you getting the FULL swap ie. motor mounts, axles, ECU, tranny, shift linkage? Why is the person selling the LSV swap?
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 07:59 AM
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he said he is selling it because he needs to pay court fees... and it doesnt come with tranny linkage axles nor mounts. or altenator just the motor basically and idk i just want to be kinda quick and yes it will be a daily driver.. i just maybe want to me able to be faster than some civics.. being able to go to the track and not gettting laughed at
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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i think you'd be running like 10.5:1 or something like that(with the mini-me). the mini me prolly wouldnt be able to handle high boost either cuz of the high compression, unless you get a real good tune. ive been researching mini mes since i bought my ef, and i wanna do one myself, but from what i know, they arent good to boost high.

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https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/faq-d15-sohc-vtec-mini-me-massive-write-up-56k-goodbye-554053/
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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well i am getting pistons and rods to lower the compression to make it work.. but i got one and you should consider boosting the stock single cam rather then the mini me cause its not really that much of a signifigant boost
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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get the LS and boost it later on ! thats what ima do..
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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sohc have more room for bigger turbo
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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My homie @ our shop is boosted mini-me, stock wit only head studs, but with a real good tune. I'm not sayin this story is the way u should go but i'm just lettin u know boosted sohc has great potential. He made almost 290 on 15lbs (didn't street drive it like that he was just seein wut the potential was) Any way he left tuned on 12psi made close to 230, He has been driving it around for close to 8months (we were all surprised, we had bets it'd be blown within 3 months) the only problem so far is his tranny is takin a major shyt,

So my point is Sohc is too often underestimated, we turbo ALOT of them. Its less than half the price of a b-series swap and pulls way harder. Don't get me wrong tho... b-series still has much more power potential, so it comes down to personal prefference. Caution tho... LS-V is common to end up wit a rod knock. So if ur gonna go the ls-v route consider some ACL bearings before u drop it in. Good luck wit wutever u choose
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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ok its decided i am going with single cam boost.. i need it for a daily with some kick to it i want to keep my ac i live in fl. and i got vitara 8:5.1 pistons with hastings rings and hastings bearings with shopeend rods.. w.e that means . and arp head studs and a sohc vtec head with 3 angle valve job blox stage 1 turbo cam fidanza 8lb flywheel and a exedy stage 1 clutch with a crx si tranny and an aem fpr and aem cam gear.... with all honda oem gaskets and block guard.... how you think this is gonna do with this setup/?? how much boost should i run with a good tune?
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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Is it out of the question to pick up a different motor rather than trying to work with that B2 bottom end? I don't think it would be too hard to pick up a beat A6 or Z6 to rebuild then you can keep your car running while you get it all together.

STRONGLY suggest you don't use stock shot peened rods. Look into a nice set of aftermarkets. Stock like to bend under the 250hp mark. Shot peened isn't going to get you much more.

Not sure why you want the AEM cam gear or the AEM FPR.
Ditch those from your list and get a new fuel pump.
*If you keep the mini-me setup then you will need a cam gear to correct for the 1/2 tooth error from the deck height differences*

Don't do the blockguard... seriously.
Not sure where you are getting your info that lead you to think those were a good idea so do yourself a favor and don't put one in.

You asked how much boost you can run - depends on your turbo and tune. A large turbo pushing 10 psi is VERY different from a small turbo pushing 10 psi. You need to set your hp goal and look into the parts that will get you there. As far as the setup as you listed, those rods are going to be your limiting factor and I wouldn't go past 250hp.

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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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so what can i do about juicing up the motor for turbo.. those are just the parts i have laying around right now... what should i do and get in order to able to run a nice amount of boost... i got a t3 t4 turbonetics turbo kit... idk its a small blower i guess..
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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Default Re: sohc boosted or dohc vtec need some advice

and i could be able to get a a6 block will that be better to work on??? and will the mounts and everything bolt right on????
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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they should..i swapped in a z6 in my rex..On my rex i had to change the driver side motor mount bracket.. I had to use the stock d15b mount..that should be it..
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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actually all that sounds like a decent setup, people are on the fence about aem gears (some have had issues wit them slipping) an adjustable gear will shave a lil rotating mass off the valve train, not much... but a lil.

Also I've heard the vitaras slap even after break-in, nothin bad wit them, just slap. Anyone else heard anything about this?

IMO, the shot peened rods will be just fine since u said u jus want a daily and nothing too major. Since u don't know what that means its nothing too fancy. So in a nutshell....they blast the rods with shot (like shotgun pellets) it strengthens the outside of the rods by slightly compressing the metal on the surface.

Definitely get a pump, people ask for WALBRO at our shop cuz its name brand but I end up selling them RACER'S EDGE pump cuz its much cheaper, works just as good and comes wit a better warranty. and if u cant afford some injectors then use DSM injectors and jus change the clips.

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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 05:15 AM
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whats dsm ?? and i can affford injectors but what size cc should i get them?
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 05:41 AM
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A first gen Eagle Talon/Mitsubishi Eclipse/Plymouth Laser 90-94 Turbo model has 450cc injectors. Alot of people use them on a budget build will max out ~260hp or so.

If you were to buy injectors, look into Injector Dynamics, I know Tony Palo, tony1 on here, carries them, everyone seems to love them more than Precision or RC injectors. From what I have read, they have a better spray pattern. Make sure you buy the injectors to give you a little room, I'd say 780 - 1000cc so you don't end up maxing out the fuel injectors.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 06:03 AM
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buddy just friggin get a beat,wrecked,salvaged or theft recovery DA integra,if your lucky youll come accross a da gsr,just look for one off of forums,auto sales sites,auctioners etc.I.E impactauto.ca and starkautosales(I doubt with them)

youll easily find a whole da for around 150-500 bucks depending on year,model and condition but no matter which one you get you can use the whole swap,seats,dash,lips,exhaust,suspension,brakes,rim s etc.

the route above would be a much more logical choice IMO since honda has proven there b series engines are reliable and tuners have proven b series do wonders in ef's.

I would rather have a N/A old piece of junk that push's over 150whp with boltons and still has years of rape to take then have a built d-t thats in need of TLC every now and then besides it not ONLY hp that gets you good 1/4 mile numbers or makes you beat your buddy from a roll,its more so about the setup,gearing,efficiency,tech all which the b is better over the d. just look at the sohc & dohc 1/4 mile times posted in the 92/00 civics faqs section,it clearly states the setup,hp,car and times and youll be surprised trust me!

I have seen 140whp non vtec b20's run mid 14's in an eg when it takes almost 1.5 times that power for a d to run that!
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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whats "slap"
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ALLxMOTOR EG
Boost the D.
i second that motion.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by anthrax718
whats "slap"
piston slap, on a fresh build/rebuild when the rings and pistons aren't seated properly yet they slap. I've heard the viratas continue to do it even after break in. From what people say its only noise n not a problem, they actually say they work great. Like I said tho i only heard of this issue n never experienced it.

Also, turbo-d done right makes great torque
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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ok so far for about 300 i got shotpeend rods with arp bolts vitara 8:5.1 pistons hastings rings and acl bearings with a blox block guard in a d15b7 block with a z6 head. do you think this is a decent setup for the price.. and do you think i can run 8-12lbs of boost safely with a ebay boost kit./?? what else will i need to do.. or what else will be better to make this work... i also have all oem gaskets
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 06:07 AM
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hell yeah, ebay kit! (see my sig). i think 8-10 psi on a built bottem end is being a little conservative, but it'll move pretty good.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 06:26 AM
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^^ i think im going this route also.. Boosting the D..
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