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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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i have a GT2871R and for some reason the bearings got badly damaged and the shaft is crooked so the turbo is 100% scrap and non rebuildable. it only had 2300km on it and im extremely pissed about the whole thing. my turbo guy said he can convert my turbo to a sleeve turbo for about the same price it would of costed me to rebuild it. around 650$ cnd. a new ball bearing turbo is 1400$ cnd. will it make a huge difference spooling wise? what else will i notice?
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 11:41 PM
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Why not go through the Garrett exchange program and get yourself a new CHRA?
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 12:07 AM
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I'd do the exchange program or buy a new turbo.. not so sure about your 650 rerigging deal
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 04:47 AM
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You can just buy a new CHRA, I had to do that last year I only had 1500 miles on my BB 67ho when something clogged the restrictor and boom it was cooked.
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 07:34 AM
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A small turbo like G/T28 you really aren't going to get anything from ball bearing. A big turbo, like the previous poster's BB T67, there's a big difference in re-spool up between shifts and that's where BB comes in handy.

Frankly, the exchange program is your ticket. The resale on your turbo, if you need to move it, will be a lot higher for the same outlay of cash.
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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I too would stick with the exchange program. It doesn't make sense to spend $650 for a conversion.
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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you guys have to remember im in canada. the prices are a lot higher. not only cause of the exchange rate but just everything in general is higher priced. but thanks ill check into the exchange program.

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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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when they say "*At a minimum, the center housing must be re-usable to qualify for this program." that means they just need the housing itself gutted? ill give them a call on monday and see what they have to say.
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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Hey Jason, wish you best of luck but hurry and fix that turbo... we need to go do some runs together!
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by redtegra
when they say "*At a minimum, the center housing must be re-usable to qualify for this program." that means they just need the housing itself gutted? ill give them a call on monday and see what they have to say.
This is referring to the bearing system Center Housing Rotating Assembly (CHRA) aka "center cartridge" must be in good condition in order to be part of the exchange program. This means the warranty is limited to wheel/shaft damage before it will be CONSIDERED for replacement. If the CHRA has failed (i.e. radial or axial play, or saturated oil pressure) it will not be honored
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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I got a gt2871r too for my gsr. I am installing it right now. I live in gatineau, 2hours from mtl, would be nice to see you and makes some runs
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Originally Posted by TheShodan
This is referring to the bearing system Center Housing Rotating Assembly (CHRA) aka "center cartridge" must be in good condition in order to be part of the exchange program. This means the warranty is limited to wheel/shaft damage before it will be CONSIDERED for replacement. If the CHRA has failed (i.e. radial or axial play, or saturated oil pressure) it will not be honored
So if I starved the turbo of oil and the bearings exploded and caused the wheels to move inside the CHRA to the point where the wheels were grinding on the Hot/Cold side housings, would this be honored?
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So if I starved the turbo of oil and the bearings exploded and caused the wheels to move inside the CHRA to the point where the wheels were grinding on the Hot/Cold side housings, would this be honored?
No. Unfortunately, in a situation like that the exchange would not be honored by Garrett.
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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if it cost you 650 dollars i would by a t3-61 and never look back
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TheShodan
This is referring to the bearing system Center Housing Rotating Assembly (CHRA) aka "center cartridge" must be in good condition in order to be part of the exchange program. This means the warranty is limited to wheel/shaft damage before it will be CONSIDERED for replacement. If the CHRA has failed (i.e. radial or axial play, or saturated oil pressure) it will not be honored
alright thats what i thought. the turbo was still working just that the bearings got damaged and apparently the shaft was a little crooked so its not rebuildable. sounds like im good for the exchange. going to give garrett a call tomorrow. thanks
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by R.A.T.
Hey Jason, wish you best of luck but hurry and fix that turbo... we need to go do some runs together!
yeah im working on it man.. still got a bit to do though. hopefully in august it'll be running again. i just havn't had any luck whatsoever.

Originally Posted by doudlidou
I got a gt2871r too for my gsr. I am installing it right now. I live in gatineau, 2hours from mtl, would be nice to see you and makes some runs
sure i'd be down.

Originally Posted by boost4life
if it cost you 650 dollars i would by a t3-61 and never look back
that would cost me around 950$ plus the cost to change the flange for the exhaust. im hoping the garrett exchange will come out cheaper then that.
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