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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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anyone know what the steps are to reprogram the driver window auto down function on my 95 ls. i took the door panel off the other day and i just noticed the auto down wont auto down anymore?
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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Hold the button down then turn the ignition on and keep holding the button till the window is down
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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do i hold it in the manual position or the auto position? thanks for the quick reply
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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ive done this before. you hold it all the way down and keep holding it. here are the steps again. put the window up and take the key out. now hold the button all the way down and turn the key on. keep holding it till the window is all the way down then let go. bring the window back up and see if the auto feature works.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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ok, i tried all that and its not working. are you sure this is for a dc teg? i even tried all the ways that nissan/infiniti's reprogram but i cant remember any of the honda steps.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 05:28 AM
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Default Re: dc window auto down reprogram??

The above steps should work as stated.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 06:05 AM
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Default Re: dc window auto down reprogram??

I thought the Auto down function was a mechanical property of the window switch? When you press the switch all the way, it stays in that position and then you can hear it click back when the window is all the way down.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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Default Re: dc window auto down reprogram??

no the click you hear is your window motor not the switch. the switch doesnt click. its a computer thing.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Default Re: dc window auto down reprogram??

Originally Posted by Kr4nG
no the click you hear is your window motor not the switch. the switch doesnt click. its a computer thing.
Yes, actually there is an additional mechanical switch underneath the driver side window switch that holds in the down position until the window is all the way down. I just tried it, and with my finger touching the switch I could feel it click back to the center position when the window is down. Helms wiring diagram confirms it.

OP the Helms manual lists 3 different possibilities for troubleshooting the auto down function not working. It would be difficult now, so you really need the manual, but there are several different continuity and voltage tests it lists to run to try to isolate the problem of the switch not working in the Auto position. Could be a poor ground, blown fuses, bad power window relay, bad window motor, etc.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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you might be right but it is computer operated also. try to listen for the click on a volvo or a bmw. you will never hear it. you have to program it. he just unpluged it and pluged it back in to do his door panel. i doubt theres anything mechanically wrong. unless it wasnt working before.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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Default Re: dc window auto down reprogram??

Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
Yes, actually there is an additional mechanical switch underneath the driver side window switch that holds in the down position until the window is all the way down. I just tried it, and with my finger touching the switch I could feel it click back to the center position when the window is down. Helms wiring diagram confirms it.

OP the Helms manual lists 3 different possibilities for troubleshooting the auto down function not working. It would be difficult now, so you really need the manual, but there are several different continuity and voltage tests it lists to run to try to isolate the problem of the switch not working in the Auto position. Could be a poor ground, blown fuses, bad power window relay, bad window motor, etc.
I'm going w/ this guy. BTW, the last time I had a working 95 auto switch was back in 01....and I've owned quite a few Integras since then, so be grateful it worked this long.

On a side note, most manufactures in the past 10 years use a device (believe its call a PolyDevice) that is basically a relay that "breaks" when the motor binds up. Thus, this circuit/relay senses when the window is fully open/closed and kills power the motor. Also, most auto windows now use a relay that is not built into the switch as those often break (just as the case w/ the Integras).
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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no it DID work before, just not since i unpluged it. theres not a separate fuse for the auto function aside from the normal up/down is there?? ive tried the steps above now several times and still no go.

what really gets me, is that i own two integra's and my 94 that iv'e owned for 7 years now has had the door panels off dozens of times and i have NEVER had to reprogramed the auto function on it.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Default Re: dc window auto down reprogram??

Originally Posted by Kr4nG
you might be right but it is computer operated also. try to listen for the click on a volvo or a bmw. you will never hear it. you have to program it. he just unpluged it and pluged it back in to do his door panel. i doubt theres anything mechanically wrong. unless it wasnt working before.
I'm sure that is right, because neither of my parents' Toyotas (06 Tacoma and 07 Camry) make any audible click sounds when the window gets fully up or down. But we're talking about technology from 15 years ago, and it makes perfect sense that an auto-down window function, which was probably a relatively new feature in cars of that price range, would be a mechanical function.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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im kinda confused as to what you are talking about when you say there is a "second switch under the driver switch" that goes back to the middle when the window is all the way down. doesnt the switch go back to the middle as soon as you let go of it?? are you talking about a relay in the switch panel?

and as far as newer windows using relays to know when the window is up, isnt entirely accurate. they will use a high resistance breaker/relay to roll the window back down as an anti pinch feature when they "see" resistance, but they use a sensor in the motor that counts the rotations/position of the motor (similar to a cam or crank angle sensor) to know what position the glass is at. this is all usualy contained in the motor's housing and when they go bad usually the other window function act funny also so the whole thing gets replaced, which i do on g35's at work on a pretty regular basis.

but thats all beside the point of me not being able to reprogram my window that was working fine untill i unplugged it.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:14 AM
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Default Re: dc window auto down reprogram??

Originally Posted by got wide
im kinda confused as to what you are talking about when you say there is a "second switch under the driver switch" that goes back to the middle when the window is all the way down. doesnt the switch go back to the middle as soon as you let go of it?? are you talking about a relay in the switch panel?
"switch" may not have been the right wording. When you move the window switch to roll down the window, there are contacts that activate the window motor to move the glass down. When you move the switch farther, you can feel a second "contact" or something under the switch that gets pressed to keep the "down" contacts connected without you keeping your finger on the switch. When the window gets all the way down, you can hear (and feel if you keep your finger just touching the switch) it click off.

Indeed the wiring diagram in the Helms shows it as a second contact position for the Auto Down function.
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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Default Re: dc window auto down reprogram??

hey just wanted to point out that my auto down hasnt worked for about 2 years and today i took my door panel off, removed the window switch, opened up the housing and cleaned it out. there was alot of crud in there. i then plugged it back in and now my auto down works again. didnt even have to "re-program" it. for those of you whose switches dont work, try cleaning it out. years of dust and other foreign particles can cause the switch's auto down feature to not function by obstructing the contacts for this feature.
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Old May 3, 2015 | 12:00 PM
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Just signed up to the forums to say thanks for this post. (nothing like bumping a 6 year old post!)

I had my DC5 into the auto-electrician to replace the starter motor, and when I got it back the drivers window auto function was no longer working. I just tried your 'hold down auto open while turning key on and let it open all the way' trick and although it didn't work the first try, it worked after a couple of tries (I actually started with it open and held down auto close, turned on key, held till it was shut, and then it started working after turning key off and back on again).

Anyway thanks for the tip, saves me an argument with the auto-electrician and a trip back to the shop for them to fix it.

Thanks
Matthew
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Originally Posted by SLAM-ER
Just signed up to the forums to say thanks for this post. (nothing like bumping a 6 year old post!)

I had my DC5 into the auto-electrician to replace the starter motor, and when I got it back the drivers window auto function was no longer working. I just tried your 'hold down auto open while turning key on and let it open all the way' trick and although it didn't work the first try, it worked after a couple of tries (I actually started with it open and held down auto close, turned on key, held till it was shut, and then it started working after turning key off and back on again).

Anyway thanks for the tip, saves me an argument with the auto-electrician and a trip back to the shop for them to fix it.

Thanks
Matthew
To be clear, this procedure is for newer cars with electronic auto up/down functions, apparently used in the RSX and other newer cars. This will not work for Integras with mechanical-based auto-down window functions.
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