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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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Default What is a Redline and HP/TQ numbers on a 97 spec JDM B18C (typeR)?

For Redline I've heard from 8200-8400 RPM.
For HP I've heard from 195-214.

What is the true HP and redline on a 96-97 spec JDM Integta type R? I just swapped in this swap 2 weeks ago and I wanna set my tach to the proper RPM. Thanks
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 10:56 PM
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i think you can find the answer around here if you look but to answer your question i think they are 200hp at 8100 rpm and 134 lbs-ft at 6200 and redlines at 8400 i believe
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 04:09 AM
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No b-series engine came from the factory with more than a 200hp rating, and that's all the ITR engines.

I have a 97 JDM ITR swap in my car with a matching ECU and my fuel cut is 8600rpm, which as I understand it is the case for all JDM ITR engines. As I understand all USDM ITR engines have the 8400rpm redline.
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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JDM and USDM are practicly same motor. People may say HP is more on JDM is because they (Japan and other non US markets) run on higher octane gas, thus more HP. When you use our watered gas here in the States, HP is 190 (Stock). Redline is 8400.

I might be wrong but noone ever proved this theory wrong.
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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i dnt think higher octane gas is more powerful then regular gas i thought higher octane gas only eliminated knock due to high compression but as far as power gains octane has nothing to do with it. atleast thats what i thought i could be wrong
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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ive seen many places rate the JDM ITR motor at 210hp....i have the JDM ITR motor and i have the JDM cluster in my civic and the fuel cut on mine seems to be between 8500 and 9k....im never looking cause im looking straight ahead. But its right around there.
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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never know that there are so many experts in here.
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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Default Re: What is a Redline and HP/TQ numbers on a 97 spec JDM B18C (typeR)?

Originally Posted by platinum_rich
JDM and USDM are practicly same motor. People may say HP is more on JDM is because they (Japan and other non US markets) run on higher octane gas, thus more HP. When you use our watered gas here in the States, HP is 190 (Stock). Redline is 8400.

I might be wrong but noone ever proved this theory wrong.
USDM is 195 HP
JDM was 220 based on higher octane gas, slightly different ecu mapping to take advantage of the gas, and the JDM R Header

2001 JDM Honda Integra Type-R SpecificationsChassis
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/disc
Tires F-R: 215/45 ZR17
Engine
Type: Inline-4
Displacement cu in (cc): 122 (1998)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 220(162) / 8000
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 152(206) / 7000
Redline at RPM: n.a.
Exterior
Length × Width × Height in: 172.6 × 67.9 × 54.5
Weight lb (kg): n.a.
Performance
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: n.a.
Top Speed mph (km/h): n.a.
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): n.a.
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 06:12 AM
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Default Re: What is a Redline and HP/TQ numbers on a 97 spec JDM B18C (typeR)?

Originally Posted by SlapSmak
USDM is 195 HP
JDM was 220 based on higher octane gas, slightly different ecu mapping to take advantage of the gas, and the JDM R Header

2001 JDM Honda Integra Type-R SpecificationsChassis
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/disc
Tires F-R: 215/45 ZR17
Engine
Type: Inline-4
Displacement cu in (cc): 122 (1998)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 220(162) / 8000
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 152(206) / 7000
Redline at RPM: n.a.
Exterior
Length × Width × Height in: 172.6 × 67.9 × 54.5
Weight lb (kg): n.a.
Performance
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: n.a.
Top Speed mph (km/h): n.a.
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): n.a.
What is your source? Japan uses RON to measure octane while the US uses an average of RON & MON. Their octane isn't any higher than what can be bought here.

Every professional media publication ive come across puts the factory rating at 195 for the USDM and 197 for the JDM. A lot of people at the rumor mill perpetuate all kinds of stuff. Also consider Japan use PS for power rating. 220/152 sounds more like a DC5R and not a DC2R
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 07:35 AM
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^^ That sounds more like it Kidkorner, and is what I've seen pretty much everywhere reliable.

I can almost guarantee you the JDM ITR B18C engine did not put out 220hp and 152lb-ft. Like Kidkorner said, those numbers look like the K20-R not the B18C.

I think the fact that wherever you copied that list from, SlapSmak, doesn't have the curb weight, redline, or any performance figures kinda tells me that they didn't really know what they're posting.

One thing that's for sure though is that the JDM ITR engine has a slightly higher compression ratio...11.1:1 versus I think 10.6:1 or 10.8:1 (someone correct me on that).
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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Default Re: What is a Redline and HP/TQ numbers on a 97 spec JDM B18C (typeR)?

Those specs are for the DC5 type R. look at the tire size and displacement.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Default Re: What is a Redline and HP/TQ numbers on a 97 spec JDM B18C (typeR)?

Originally Posted by KaBlookie
^^ That sounds more like it Kidkorner, and is what I've seen pretty much everywhere reliable.

I can almost guarantee you the JDM ITR B18C engine did not put out 220hp and 152lb-ft. Like Kidkorner said, those numbers look like the K20-R not the B18C.

I think the fact that wherever you copied that list from, SlapSmak, doesn't have the curb weight, redline, or any performance figures kinda tells me that they didn't really know what they're posting.

One thing that's for sure though is that the JDM ITR engine has a slightly higher compression ratio...11.1:1 versus I think 10.6:1 or 10.8:1 (someone correct me on that).

USDM B18C5 Engine
Displacement (cc):
1797

Power (bhp@rpm):
195 @ 7,800 rpm

Torque (ft/lbs@rpm):
130 @ 7,600 rpm

Compression Ratio:
10.6:1

Bore (mm):
81

Stroke (mm):
87.2

Cam Design:
DOHC

Valve Train
VTEC



Year: JDM B18C '96-01

Valve Train: DOHC, VTEC, 16 Valve

Transmission: Hydraulic

Displacement: 1979cc

Compression: 11.0:1

HP: 200 @ 8000rpm

Torque: 134 lb-ft @ 7500rpm

Redline: 8900rpm

Corrected, heck even I have a hard time remembering these #'s
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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Default Re: What is a Redline and HP/TQ numbers on a 97 spec JDM B18C (typeR)?

Originally Posted by JDM_nUt
Year: JDM B18C '96-01

Valve Train: DOHC, VTEC, 16 Valve

Transmission: Hydraulic

Displacement: 1979cc

Compression: 11.0:1

HP: 200 @ 8000rpm

Torque: 134 lb-ft @ 7500rpm

Redline: 8900rpm

Corrected, heck even I have a hard time remembering these #'s
it's not 200hp it's 200ps which equates to 197 hp, these are advertised specs, we all know power differs in reality
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 04:03 PM
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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it gets tricky because even 197hp in honda HP is actually less (in today's terms)

Notice how the S2000 from 2005 to 2006 went from 240hp to 237?

The way they measure HP in 2006 changed, they standardized with other automakers.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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lol I hope they didnt change the torque measurement, I cant afford to lose anymore of that
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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I'm not so sure that 8900rpm redline number is correct...I have a real 97 JDM ITR ECU and I get fuel cut right at 8600rpm.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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Default Re: What is a Redline and HP/TQ numbers on a 97 spec JDM B18C (typeR)?

Originally Posted by irev210
it gets tricky because even 197hp in honda HP is actually less (in today's terms)

Notice how the S2000 from 2005 to 2006 went from 240hp to 237?

The way they measure HP in 2006 changed, they standardized with other automakers.
I don't think you really know what's going on in that regard.

The S2000 is making the same power in both years, it's just that the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) adopted a new standard in 2006 that the alternator be included when manufacturers measure the production engines power. Not all manufacturers adopted this, nor was it required.

The same could be said about the power of engine in the hot rod days. The engines then would actually produce less power then what they were advertised to if measured on modern equipment. We all know that manufacturers advertised the vehicles power and often they under estimated this underadvertised this power. But, if the engine were put on the equipment available today the equipment would show that these engines produced less power, meaning if the engine truly measure 500bhp back in 196X and then measured on todays equipment the engine would measure lower.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 04:21 AM
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Holy mis-information batman. 195hp for the US and 200ps (or 197ish hp) for the JDM. Redline is at 8400 on both w/ fuel cut at 8600.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 95 integra
Holy mis-information batman. 195hp for the US and 200ps (or 197ish hp) for the JDM. Redline is at 8400 on both w/ fuel cut at 8600.
Thank yoooouuuuuu 95 integra. That's the answer I was looking for
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SlapSmak
USDM is 195 HP
JDM was 220 based on higher octane gas, slightly different ecu mapping to take advantage of the gas, and the JDM R Header

2001 JDM Honda Integra Type-R SpecificationsChassis
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/disc
Tires F-R: 215/45 ZR17
Engine
Type: Inline-4
Displacement cu in (cc): 122 (1998)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 220(162) / 8000
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 152(206) / 7000
Redline at RPM: n.a.
Exterior
Length × Width × Height in: 172.6 × 67.9 × 54.5
Weight lb (kg): n.a.
Performance
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: n.a.
Top Speed mph (km/h): n.a.
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): n.a.
did anyone notice this was a 2.0L motor? with 215-45-17 tires along with it i'm guessing this is a k20 type r since japan received the rsx body one year before us.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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Default Re: What is a Redline and HP/TQ numbers on a 97 spec JDM B18C (typeR)?

Originally Posted by JDM_nUt


Year: JDM B18C '96-01

Valve Train: DOHC, VTEC, 16 Valve

Transmission: Hydraulic

Displacement: 1979cc

Compression: 11.0:1

HP: 200 @ 8000rpm

Torque: 134 lb-ft @ 7500rpm

Redline: 8900rpm

Corrected, heck even I have a hard time remembering these #'s
Should be 1797cc hense the B18C. 1.8L not 2L
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BoS_DC2
Should be 1797cc hense the B18C. 1.8L not 2L
that's because he posted specs on the k20 type r which was 220hp
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by idrivesideways
that's because he posted specs on the k20 type r which was 220hp
Well then, his specs and applications are all over the place lol.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by idrivesideways
that's because he posted specs on the k20 type r which was 220hp
which is 220 ps
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