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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Default 93 DA9 camber kit needed?

i just picked up some tien s-tech's and wanted to know if camber kits are needed? will an alignment do the job?
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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Default Re: 93 DA9 camber kit needed?

DA's and EF's tend to have A LOT of negative camber when lowered. You will go through tires like crazy if you don't get an alignment or camber kit.
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PhantoM.DA
DA's and EF's tend to have A LOT of negative camber when lowered. You will go through tires like crazy if you don't get an alignment or camber kit.
good to know thanks.
can anyone recommend a good camber kit setup?
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Default Re: 93 DA9 camber kit needed?

Originally Posted by PhantoM.DA
DA's and EF's tend to have A LOT of negative camber when lowered.
I can't comment on this part, having never lowered my DA.

Originally Posted by PhantoM.DA
You will go through tires like crazy if you don't get an alignment or camber kit.
I disagree with this statement.

You will go through tiers like crazy if you don't get an alignment to correct the toe. Toe changes with ride height, and toe being out of alignment kills tires quickly.

Having driven my DC2 for 2.5 years with -4* of front camber without any signs of "camber wear" or otherwise accelerated wear, I can say that camber does not wear tires in any concernable manner.

Skip the camber kit, enjoy the lowering, don't forget to clock the bushings correctly when you install the parts, and don't forget to get an alignment to put the toe back to correct. Also, you will need another alignment any time you adjust the ride height.
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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Default Re: 93 DA9 camber kit needed?

Originally Posted by TunerN00b
I can't comment on this part, having never lowered my DA.



I disagree with this statement.

You will go through tiers like crazy if you don't get an alignment to correct the toe. Toe changes with ride height, and toe being out of alignment kills tires quickly.

Having driven my DC2 for 2.5 years with -4* of front camber without any signs of "camber wear" or otherwise accelerated wear, I can say that camber does not wear tires in any concernable manner.

Skip the camber kit, enjoy the lowering, don't forget to clock the bushings correctly when you install the parts, and don't forget to get an alignment to put the toe back to correct. Also, you will need another alignment any time you adjust the ride height.
so your saying i dont need camber kits? just go to a alignment shop and get my toe adjusted?
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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Yes, you could say that. You don't really need a camber kit unless you decide to slam the car which puts a lot of tension on the arms and such. Getting the alignment done is what you should do after you lower your car since it will correct the toe. If you indeed want a camber kit, get the Skunk2 for your Integra.
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Yes, you could say that. You don't really need a camber kit unless you decide to slam the car which puts a lot of tension on the arms and such. Getting the alignment done is what you should do after you lower your car since it will correct the toe. If you indeed want a camber kit, get the Skunk2 for your Integra.
good to know.. low on money so not needing a camber kit helps alot..
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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so your saying i dont need camber kits? just go to a alignment shop and get my toe adjusted?
Yes, I am stating that you do not need a camber kit.

If fact, I would go even further and say that most people should not run one at all on a street car, regardless of their financial situation, for an Integra or most Civics (some strut based Civics are the exception). Offset balljoint type kits and sliding balljoint UCA type kits are all taller than stock, which reduces the available suspension travel. Instead of the suspension bottoming out when the shock runs out of travel, you instead bottom out when the UCA hits the shock tower.

I have a camber kit. I have dented shock towers from contact. The bottoming has bent my knuckles. This is not something you want to deal with on a street car.
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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Default Re: 93 DA9 camber kit needed?

This is good to know I was thinking about getting a Camber kit now I don't have to.
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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Default Re: 93 DA9 camber kit needed?

i dnt know why ppl alway accuse camber for tire wear lol,im a tech and what kills tires is toe when dealing with the suspension compants also make sure all ur tierods inner/outer are tight no play cause it will put that alignment off once u drive out the lot or hit a bump ......
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DB1_559
i dnt know why ppl alway accuse camber for tire wear lol,im a tech and what kills tires is toe when dealing with the suspension compants also make sure all ur tierods inner/outer are tight no play cause it will put that alignment off once u drive out the lot or hit a bump ......
The issue is that the majority of "techs" will tell customers that they need a camber kit to save their tires. These techs are either misinformed, or have been told how much money the shop makes selling camber kits.

There's a lot of bad information out there confusing people...

Even the Acura dealer told me "Dude, you need a camber kit, look at your tires! We have them in stock for your car..." and was shocked beyond belief when I explained I had a camber kit, and it was being used to set the camber more negative than lowering provided. He walked off completely confused.
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