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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 01:39 PM
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ok i posted before but that was with just what the guy told me

ok its zc bottom with a vtec head the only numbers i found on the head was p06
its a pm6 ecu

it starts and idles fine but if i give full throttle it bogs down to nothing the

the vtec isnt hooked up and for right now i think its best

and sometimes well most the time it smokes like uncle bucks car

any clue to whats wrong with this car other than it should be taken to a junkyard?
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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sounds like a good project car tahts for sure
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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sounds like a good project car tahts for sure
yeah i was more hoping to get an idea of what could be wrong....i know its a project
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 01:07 AM
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There is a good possibility that your timing is off. Also, unless the PM6 ecu is rechipped or something, you won't have vtec anyway. Just by chance, do you have a picture of the engine? Or just an engine bay shot?
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 01:46 AM
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i will try to get pictures tomorrow
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 05:17 AM
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What color is the smoke coming out?
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 11:54 AM
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What color is the smoke coming out?
its a white light grey, and there is oil building up in the tailpipe also but it still like runs pretty strong
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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Get your vtec hooked up and a proper mapping for that setup.
A stock P28 map would do much better than what you have.
Just because you don't have vtec hooked doesn't make it a Pm6 worthy head - the cam has totally different profiles than what that ECU is looking to serve.

Opening up on it without proper mapping - not even surprised it bogs

Other than that you need to crack that engine open.
It's a far off chance that your PVC valve is failing - most likely you got a blown headgasket, cracked sleeve, bad rings... etc.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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Either...

1. Headgasket is bad.
2. Head is warped.
3. Head is cracked
4. Block is cracked.
5. ECU or injectors is bad and giving not enough fuel/too much in which case it would be blowing black smoke or greyish smoke
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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yeah seems like a bummer guess start with a p28 and if that doesnt work off comes the head
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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BTW - if that P06 is chipped then you can convert it to operate vtec.
http://xenocron.com/install/index.htm
check out the 11F0 and 1720 kits. you will need to figure out which one you need for your ECU.

They also do chipping - you should look into that so you can get a tune done or at least a decent basemap.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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i just went out there now that its daylight and i had an idea what to look for and the oil has gas it in it and all its new oil....does that narrow it down any? also i just took the valve cover off and its got tons of gas in the head

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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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not to be the bearer of badnews but that head isnt a vtec head? p06s are non-vtec.

usually gas in the oil is a good indication of bad rings. get us some pics of your motor and the back side.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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oh i dont care if its non vtec but it has a solonoid and of course its says vtec lol yeah i am trying to get a damn camera
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by EJ1_Sleeper
not to be the bearer of badnews but that head isnt a vtec head? p06s are non-vtec.

usually gas in the oil is a good indication of bad rings. get us some pics of your motor and the back side.
this is all i got its what he sent me on a cell phone so its not the best angle or detailed but will maybe help

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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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that is a vtec head how much didi u pay for the car anyway
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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nothing i had an old 1985 cutlass laying around that i traded
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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Default Re: got a new 90 ef with crazy acting mini me

get a better picture.
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