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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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I got an oil leak issue! This things a bitch. and i have replaced the crank seal, cam seals, oil pan gasket, the valve cover gasket, and head gasket all when the swap was done.

Now i have oil leaking

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The red is the general area i find oil.

The yellow is where it drips. Longer lines indicates where i beleive it drips the most. shorter lines drip less.

and the green is where i find some oil just chillin.

There is oil on my belts, and it gets misted allover suspension pieces.

I really need to get this fixed cause its leaking quite a bit... And i am getting opinions on what youall may think it could be...

any input is greatly appreciatted thanks!!!!
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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Default Re: Pics* Oil leak b16..

Its all mainly under the crank.

Could it be an oil pump seal

Rear main seal??


IF so how do i tell if it is??
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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is there oil on your timing belt?

one of my cam cap journals worked its self loose and I had oil in those same spots and couldnt figure it out
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bakomack
is there oil on your timing belt?

one of my cam cap journals worked its self loose and I had oil in those same spots and couldnt figure it out

Yeah there is.. But not very noticeable.. only in bright light you can see the belt being semi-glossy..

So how did you fix the problem? re torque it all to spec??
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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Man, this would really **** you off but have you checked the plugs that screw into the head where the rocker shafts go in? I've seen those leak many times and, since it's behind the cover (if you have the rear cover behind the cam gears) it's hard to spot. If you want to see if that's where it's leaking, pull the upper cover. See if you can see oil running down the block behind the timing belt. If you can, pull the cam gears and remove the rear cover. You should find your leak there; it will either be cam seals or those plugs I speak of.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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Man, this would really **** you off but have you checked the plugs that screw into the head where the rocker shafts go in? I've seen those leak many times and, since it's behind the cover (if you have the rear cover behind the cam gears) it's hard to spot. If you want to see if that's where it's leaking, pull the upper cover. See if you can see oil running down the block behind the timing belt. If you can, pull the cam gears and remove the rear cover. You should find your leak there; it will either be cam seals or those plugs I speak of.
What plugs? idk what your talking about lol...
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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The 17th picture down in this post. You will see the plugs I'm talking about. THOSE. If you had the head cleaned up at a machine shop, they don't put them back in real tight sometimes...

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/lma-blues-writeup-theory-replacement-w-pics-2564272/
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by coryfenton
Its all mainly under the crank.

Could it be an oil pump seal

Rear main seal??


IF so how do i tell if it is??
oil pump seal. Also, the oil pump is sealed to the block from the factory is silicone. you may want to remove your oil pump and try to reseal it....might fix the problem. only thing is, you have to pull your t-belt to do this.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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Ryan:

gotz2b16 if you would like me to remove pic PM me and i will do so.






Originally Posted by omgwtfbbq
oil pump seal. Also, the oil pump is sealed to the block from the factory is silicone. you may want to remove your oil pump and try to reseal it....might fix the problem. only thing is, you have to pull your t-belt to do this.
is there any way to look and see without tearing everything off??
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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Yes, I'm talking about those. I just got done pulling the one on the passenger side behind the distributor and replacing the crush washer because it was leaking. Had me pulling my hair out thinking it was the HG or the dizzy Oring....
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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could it be the seal from the oil pan to the block? maybe it needs a new gasket or put some of that seal stuff on the gasket
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Default Re: Pics* Oil leak b16..

I dont think its the oil pan gasket... cause if it were that how the hell would it be getting on my timing belt??

and i will look into those plugs. i never thought about that. the only thing is that the head is still hella clean.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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OMG i had this same problem!!! My shop took EVERYTHING off, Oil Pan/Oil Pump/ Replaced all the seals and it was STILL leaking...in the end they determined that my block might be cracked...=[ =[ =[
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by exist12
OMG i had this same problem!!! My shop took EVERYTHING off, Oil Pan/Oil Pump/ Replaced all the seals and it was STILL leaking...in the end they determined that my block might be cracked...=[ =[ =[
That is a stupid and lazy shop, I would never go back there.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by exist12
OMG i had this same problem!!! My shop took EVERYTHING off, Oil Pan/Oil Pump/ Replaced all the seals and it was STILL leaking...in the end they determined that my block might be cracked...=[ =[ =[
Where the hell would the block be cracked tho haha?


And Ryan:

Wasnt thos plugs, i took off the timing cover and can see them thru the cam gears. dry as can be...
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