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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 07:24 AM
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Hey guys,

Anyone know where I should be looking for some custom serial tags? I'm looking to have some made of aluminum.

Ideally, I'd like blank ones with our logo and a place to stamp a serial number, materials etc ...

Also, I'm wondering what is the best way of attaching these? I like the look of the riveted ones, but that might not always work for what I'm doing.

Anyone have any ideas? Please feel free to post pics!

Thanks for your help!



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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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we riveted an important tag to my buddies exhaust because it fell off lol... if you drill the hole acurately it will have no leaks, just like we did with my buddies exhaust, its 100% leak free.

but i think thats not a good idea on a radiator or intercooler, another way would be glue.
there are some super strong 2 component glues available today, hell even some audis are glued together!! you should try and stick some aluminum together with some epoxy resin and let it cure and see how it holds together, maybe do some strength tests.
give those pieces a good sanding before you glue them, smooth surfaces dont stick very well, but who am i telling this...you know how its done :D

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found a pic

laying something flat and super heavy on top of it ensures that its curing 100% flat.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 08:36 AM
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I would be interested in this also. I also am looking for someone to machine me some logo tags that could be welded to header tubes, roll cages etc. Any suggestions?
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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^weirtech!!!!
he has a sick *** tag for his stuff and i guess he will do some for you too, just pm him
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 11:25 AM
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Yeah Weir had some cnc emblems that are really nice.He was welding them to his manifolds.I guess you could do something like that and maybe stamp the numbers ona flat section?Here is one of his pics hope he doesnt mind

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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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Oh, yes! I definitely want to get those weldable tags going soon. I've just been trying to come up with a cool logo that would be easy to cut. My logo doesn't transfer over well to a 2D style ...

Now I'm trying to get the serializing tags going too, for the aluminum work.

Thanks guys!
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Agtronic
Oh, yes! I definitely want to get those weldable tags going soon. I've just been trying to come up with a cool logo that would be easy to cut. My logo doesn't transfer over well to a 2D style ...

Now I'm trying to get the serializing tags going too, for the aluminum work.

Thanks guys!
Hi M,

We use thin alloy tags for our performance radiators (about .9mm alloy) with 3m double sided tape to secure them, We did a test on a few of our own cars before we went with this product, They last very well on the rocker cover or radiator, so they stand up to heat very well..

I'll try and take some pictures tomorrow.

They are made by a local crowd in my city in New Zealand, so not much help for you, but they are out there! About $1.20 NZD each tag, though, but really good to get your product recognized.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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would also be interested in these, let me know what you find.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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Check out aluminum stickers. They're thick enough to imprint a seriel number, or you could write one in yourself. These are actually made just up the street from me...I'll talk to Andy with AMR to get you contact info if needed.

They're the black/aluminum stickers on the coilover...flash site can't steal pics

http://www.amrengineering.com/index.html

edit- wouldn't work for manifolds...but for intercoolers, radiators, cages, etc, would be classy!
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Evs-One
Check out aluminum stickers. They're thick enough to imprint a seriel number, or you could write one in yourself. These are actually made just up the street from me...I'll talk to Andy with AMR to get you contact info if needed.

They're the black/aluminum stickers on the coilover...flash site can't steal pics

http://www.amrengineering.com/index.html

edit- wouldn't work for manifolds...but for intercoolers, radiators, cages, etc, would be classy!
everything that doesnt heat up too much, for exhaust and manifolds id get my logo (if i had one) watercut or lasered and just weld it in with 2 or 4 spots.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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looking for something like these, i think nrg makes they're own in house.

at the top of the ic

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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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That is EXACTLY what I'm looking for!! I wonder if they will make them for other shops? I wonder how the logo is etched onto there.

NRG, you guys reading? Wanna share?
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 09:20 AM
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Laser, abrasive, or chemical etching/marking would all work.

I think a bar code with whatever info you want would be a better/cooler idea than the number. Or both maybe.

I know there are cell phone applications that read barcodes now. I have no idea how the bar code system works, so you would need to do some research on that end.

http://www.nationalband.com/laser.htm
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NoClassic
Laser, abrasive, or chemical etching/marking would all work.

I think a bar code with whatever info you want would be a better/cooler idea than the number. Or both maybe.

I know there are cell phone applications that read barcodes now. I have no idea how the bar code system works, so you would need to do some research on that end.

http://www.nationalband.com/laser.htm
For the OP, not sure how the color would stand up to heat, wear and tear, etc. But they would definitely make your product stand out even more from the crowd...

From the link above:
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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We bond in MIL STD-130 compliant tags with UID barcodes (new generation "3D" barcode) from CamCode on our composite parts for aerospace/defense components. Some of the 1.25mil aluminum tags have adhesive backings that are good to 400*F, or you can use mechanical fastening like rivets or breakaway screws.

http://www.camcod.com/uid/uid.asp
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 12:09 AM
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I make some similar to the NRG ones for a few shops. The ones I make are all done on a 3 axis cnc mill and are fairly intricate (read not super cheap). But there are a few different ways to go about it.

You can have the shapes punched out, then anodized then laser engraved. This would result in a great durable tag but would be fairly expensive after all of the different processes.

CNC milling. It's a fairly straight forward machining job. You might also be able to get them pre filled out with the serial numbers for a good price.

I'm not sure where you would look but you might be able to find a company to punch them out for you in sequential order. The draw back would be no logo.
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by levelzero
I make some similar to the NRG ones for a few shops. The ones I make are all done on a 3 axis cnc mill and are fairly intricate (read not super cheap). But there are a few different ways to go about it.

You can have the shapes punched out, then anodized then laser engraved. This would result in a great durable tag but would be fairly expensive after all of the different processes.

CNC milling. It's a fairly straight forward machining job. You might also be able to get them pre filled out with the serial numbers for a good price.

I'm not sure where you would look but you might be able to find a company to punch them out for you in sequential order. The draw back would be no logo.
any pics of your work? would you ship to the us?
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 02:15 AM
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One thing I forgot to mention that we have found to be a great help to our customers is to drill holes in the corners. This allows the plates to either be riveted on or welded on using a plug weld instead of burning up the corners. It's a small difference but the final look is much cleaner. I actually bumped into a guy who had one of my customers put the a plate on his charge pipe and then sanded down the plug welds before polishing the pipes. The final look was spectacular.

Originally Posted by denske
any pics of your work? would you ship to the us?
Sorry been a busy week. PM me and I'll send you a link to some parts we make. Yes 85% of our customers are in the US. We use a private customers broker to ensure no stupid fees for our customers also.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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If anyone is interested in doing this, I can do it relatively cheaply one way via sublimation. Best pricing would be to do it in largish batches with the serial number included. I could also engrave the plates, but that would be a bit more costly.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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I have a laser etcher and could provide tags either raw aluminum and stainless with your logo on them, or maybe pre drilled anodized tags with your logo laser etched on them..
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by locash
I have a laser etcher and could provide tags either raw aluminum and stainless with your logo on them, or maybe pre drilled anodized tags with your logo laser etched on them..
Joe's the man..... I wouldn't hesitate to have Joe make them. Not to mention his machining work is top notch.
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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I don't know who that guy is, but I think he wants to hug me or something.
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