well just picked up a set for my sister 99em1 gotta smog for registration. seen spark comparrisions between regular plugs and dyno numbers on muscle cars but havent seen anything on hondas. maybe im just not looking hard enough but curious if mileage is better and if they notice any performance.

 

you won't see any performance. stick with oem ngk's.

 

installed them today.the work as avertised exept i havnt tested gas milage. i switched from ngk iridiums.my idle smoothed out. engine feels better,more responsive.

 

Probably woulda done the same thing with new NGK's. Old plugs replaced by new plugs = better idle regardless

Seriously, if X spark plug DID get better mileage then wouldn't manufacturers just use them off the factory floor? It's not like they're saving a buck with shitty plugs, Iridiums are not cheap.

It's all a ploy, there's no magic spark plug. Just use factory recommended, gap to service manual specs and be happy.

 

well i didnt lose anything. saved some money. no bad effects i think i still win. i can say i used them in my lawn mower and could cut twice as much on a full tank. i forgot to mention im using them in a h22a typ s. i installed them because they been running exellent in all the cars at the local tuning shop that wanted them.they did good on horsepower tv. i also tried pulsar plugs. stay away from them foreal.

 

well they are kind of new to the market . i think k&n filters work better then stock paper ones u dont see honda or gm using them stock .

 

Wow. Let's see actual dyno numbers between plugs.....(its ok to laugh at that)

Because electricity choses the "best" route through metals it will jump to the closest spot possible. you can add all types of prongs to plugs and it WILL NOT DO A DAMN THING! this is why spark plug gaps are important. this is the way to control your spark plug and it only needs one standard issue peg plug.

Iridium is for a colder spark for higher compression or boost.

e3 plugs are NOT new to the market. they have been around for years. Nobody who works on their own car uses them because if you do a little research on electricity you would know why they do not work.

To the OP... You would have felt those improvements with a properly gapped new plug. If plugs actually could give you more HP don't you think they would cost more then 3 bux?

 

i run a shop we specialize in honda swaps but have done 1jz swap into a 89 supra,20v 4age silver top into geo prism (:D). pretty much i can do any swap with diagrams. i never claimed any huge power gain. i said there is no ill effects.
there plugs are 6.99 per plug here. theres plenty of dyno charts with e3 plugs online. hell horsepower tv even tested them. i been building regular engines and race engines for years i can tell you how they do work. in our race car applications we change out spark plugs after every run at VIR(virginia international Racway). we use copper spark plugs with fine points. the prob is after a run we lost 10% of power due to the wear on the fine point. with e3 plugs there are multiple sharp edges around the plug which give the spark more paths to follow, thus reducing wear on each part of the electrode. I tried the e3 plugs in our h22a civic hatch after watching it on horsepower tv mainly for the reduction in the wear. it allows us to save more money buy replacing the spark plugs after 1 whole week end of racing vs just 1 run. many would ask why not use iridium. simple copper is more conductive than iridium. we also have taken intrest in silver spark plugs.

 

But if you don't have a race car application then there's no need to spend the extra money on these plugs. I can understand why they are good for racing applications (durability), but it's not really necessary on a DD... the NGK V-powers won't see the kind of wear and tear that they would from a race application.


OP: You will not gain any power over a brand new set of NGK V-power (OEM). They might last longer.

 

I've wondered how these plugs would hold up in an actual race setting and
not a advertisement race setting. So they really held up the whole weekend?
If so, right on!

 

yes held up very well so those plugs cost 27.96 vs we usually spend 89 per week end(fir,sat,sun)for plugs.

 

civic in action . accidently went from first to 4th to 2nd then to 3rd oops http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY_MQIE2374

 

other than NGK plugs for a honda motor = junk

 

jesus u people need to use facts we in a tec hnology error jump on it and quit living by old technology http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r205...00-Mile-Review

 

If you're going to present "facts," try presenting ones in which the experiment had control. There are way too many variables to say that they really helped that much, and those variables were not controlled. The only thing that was controlled was the placebo effect (since the wife was not told about the spark plugs) but all that tells us accurately is that the engine runs a little bit smoother.

 

i feel exactly what your saying but everyone is ignoring the fact i used them in a h22a race civic. and im telling you it is a great spark plug. i been running them for about 3 to 4 weeks and they still looked great when i took them out to open the gap a lil bit for our new ignition box and coil. im showing on the a/f gauge w wideband o2 the air fuel mixture is great 12.8 to 13.2.. its a great plug. all i can say is try it for the ones skeptical. i posted a video above to show how good they run and thats without the msd ignition installed(other ignition croaked). i installed the msd ignition today and opened the gap to .50 from .44. picked up 5hp and 6tq in the mid range just from the new msd and blaster 3 coil. we was impressed with the results today i love hondas. :D

 

Okay, but what I already said is that if you don't have a race car then you don't need these plugs. If you don't beat the **** out of your engine on a regular basis, you don't need them.

You need them because they stand up to the wear and tear of a race car. That's great. But people who only daily drive their Civic will probably not notice a single difference over OEM NGK V-Power plugs.

 

My experience was that the car actually ran better with them only when racing. but if i were to drive slow and under 2500 rpms they would start miss firing slightly. but when it did that id usually open it up all the way to 7800 rpm and they would go away. and if i kept driving slow they would have small miss fires random ones. so during the week id run my ngk's but on weekend or track days i put the E3's in and never had problems they helped and didn't miss fire in high rpms. the NGK's would get hot when at high rpms for a top speed run and start miss firing and e3's ran great even at 7200 rpm for a good 5 minutes running through 4th gear and 5th gear top.

 

Is your ignition timing properly set?

 

I can't believe you went from 1st gear to 4th. you're gonna fry ur clutch.

 

How?

 

ahaaaaaa got cha i missed that sorry. as for the fry your clutch comment. its kinda hard to do that on my setup. the clutch locked but it was only spinning at 3000 rpm so i went back into second. we use a 4 puck act with springs in which beating the hell out of it its going on 2 years now. good stuff. if i had a organic i woulda hurt it going into 4th

 

well dam man!!! you got a powerful *** motor and a bad *** clutch. i thought it was slipping the clutch at 3000 rpms lol. if you went from 1st to 4th and it still tried spinning tires then thats one hell of a set up you got! my clutch slipped doing a 2nd gear burnout. but that a difference in a stage 1 zoom clutch and a act 4 puck.

 

No, i built a mini me and just set the timing by the repair Manuel and never set it perfect.

 

Sarcasm?
Kinda hard to tell since this post has been dead a few days.


And are you sure you're talking about ignition timing and not the mechanical timing? Also, which timing belt did you use for the swap? D16Z6 belt, right? Also, it's better to use D16Y5 (HX) plugs because they are a little colder, which helps with the raised compression.