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Old May 27, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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I want to buy a JDM B18c (GSR) from a local buyer here. He stated that California no longer allow JDM engines to be smog legal other than the car it is meant to be in. If I were to do a JDM B18c swap in my 95 Civic. Is it true that it is not smog legal according to BAR? I heard this came into effect this month. I heard even if you have all the USDM smog equipment. It will not be overlooked other than the fact that its a JDM motor and can not be used here in California. Can anyone confirm this?
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Old May 27, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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wow i havent heard this but im sure you cann go on the web page and look around, or contact a ref.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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i dont know if this is a rumor or the truth.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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yes it will not pass smog no more even with US emissions parts
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Old May 27, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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this is only for swaps right?
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Old May 27, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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if it wasnt on the car it was meant to be on then they wont even bother making it legal. Wow, talking about being strict. **** haha
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Old May 27, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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just stamp a 1 on it they wont know
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Old May 27, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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sure, where can i get a 1 stamp anywhere. I heard Honda use a special tool to stamp numbers on those blocks. if thats the case, stolen blocks would be circulating around the honda community
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Old May 27, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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yes this is true... for example if you own a gsr and you get a jdm b18c then you will be ok. otherwise you are in troube.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 12:43 AM
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all this new news sucks, but what about a b16a3 obd2 in to a civic ex 96+? same as the si, only difference is the drum brakes and engine..+ obd2a to b
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Old May 28, 2009 | 04:00 AM
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california has the most retarded laws ever... so much for the free country
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Old May 28, 2009 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by slimjimming6688
all this new news sucks, but what about a b16a3 obd2 in to a civic ex 96+? same as the si, only difference is the drum brakes and engine..+ obd2a to b
the motor have the be the same year or newer to be able to smog and swap
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Old May 28, 2009 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by slimjimming6688
all this new news sucks, but what about a b16a3 obd2 in to a civic ex 96+? same as the si, only difference is the drum brakes and engine..+ obd2a to b
i don't think its possible since the b16a3 is obd1. engine has to be the same year or newer.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 08:40 AM
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http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...uidelines.html
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Old May 28, 2009 | 09:41 PM
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it has to be same year or newer than your car. But on top of that JDM engines from a different model car can no longer be used in a USDM car. For example, if you want to do a swap with a JDM ITR motor into your 95 Honda Civic Hatch. Will no longer be good in california. But to get around this, you need to get your car BAR'd with a USDM motor and then if later once you get the BAR stamp. Swap it out for the JDM motor. (But you didnt hear it from me) haha
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Old May 28, 2009 | 10:40 PM
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move to miami .

great women, cars, and most importantly, NO SMOG LAWS!

swaps left & right.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 11:10 PM
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Thats focken great.....send and sell all your **** this way 4 cheap price...j/k..
I guess buy jdm internal **** if dey dont check there....and you have a jdm mtr in the mind, heart, n spirit.
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Old May 29, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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California Certification

A federal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) certified (federal or 49–state) engine cannot be used in a vehicle that was originally certified for California.
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Old May 29, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jrock_DA
move to miami .

great women, cars, and most importantly, NO SMOG LAWS!

swaps left & right.
hell ya. Miami ftw. No Emissions, hot babes, no cats, no bullshit, can't even get ur hood popped in Miami-Dade.
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Old May 29, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bluenc-87
Thats focken great.....send and sell all your **** this way 4 cheap price...j/k..
I guess buy jdm internal **** if dey dont check there....and you have a jdm mtr in the mind, heart, n spirit.
ya thats pretty smart. Since its the same block anyway. Put it in a USDM Block Just order ur JDM Motor and then pull the internals out and put them into a USDM block. Problem solved.
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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so say I want a jdm b16a2 that is offered in a 99-00 usdm civic si and put it into a 93 honda civic and have the smog equip for a cal legal 99-00 si it would pass as long as it passes the sliffer?
can they tell the difference between usdm engine and jdm engine if they are both b16a2?
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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^^^^^^ a b16a2 is usdm if its a jdm engine it will only be b16a... like a b18c5 is usdm and a b18c is jdm
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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Thanks I didn't know that thanks!
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by vanmanstemig
Thanks I didn't know that thanks!
ya all USDM motors have a number at the end of the code.
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 05:16 AM
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so instead of buying a JDM motor, spend your money on rebuilding the internals of your existing motor. Yea i have a stock GSr in there....little do they know its a GSR yea, but it bored out to 2.0L has 12:1 compression, and a fully rebuilt head!

YING!
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