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Old May 20, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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Default LS Vtec VS Gsr

Why is and ls vtec better or worse than a gsr?
pros and cons for both

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Let me knows buddy asked me couldnt really answer help meh out
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Old May 20, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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Default Re: LS Vtec VS Gsr

gsr is a direct swap while Ls/v is not. Some will argue that the simplicity of a putting in a gsr compared to making an ls/v would make it more reliable while others will just shout "BUILD IT RIGHT JUST BUILD IT RIGHT." How does this help you? It doesnt, but that doesnt stop pointless argument flame war answers from straying from the point and not helping you whatsoever. i see a lot of that happen.
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Old May 20, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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Default Re: LS Vtec VS Gsr

would taking the time to do a LS vtec benefit over doing a GSR? and i've heard story's that ls vtec provide more than a gsr true or false?
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Old May 20, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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Yeah, depending on what you plan on doing with it. LS Vtec if made yourself allows you to go ahead and rebuild your internals from Stock to High Preform.

opposed to GSR you still have to break it down and you'll end up spending more on this
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Old May 20, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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pros... ls vtec has more torque then a stock gsr
its different
thats al I can think of right ast

cons....
no girdle unless u install one
gotta run your on oil line
gotta buy a few things extra blah blah blah

I have ad a few ls v setups and I like them. you can build a lsv for as much as u can buy a gsr.
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Old May 20, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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Default Re: LS Vtec VS Gsr

I've never seens ls-v loose to a gsr in a race
where im from,
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Old May 20, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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Default Re: LS Vtec VS Gsr

what head and block combination are considering for ls/v? thats really what question that needs to be answered for a good answer
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Old May 20, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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Default Re: LS Vtec VS Gsr

well mine is a gsr block with ls crank and rods for the longer stroke. Im running a b16 head with a **** ton of work done to it.
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Old May 20, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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Default Re: LS Vtec VS Gsr

Originally Posted by EG6Boy702
what head and block combination are considering for ls/v? thats really what question that needs to be answered for a good answer
there are many blocks u ca use but if it doesnt have ls guts it cant be a ls-v and same witht he head. it can be a typr r gsr or b16 head
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Old May 20, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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Default Re: LS Vtec VS Gsr

Originally Posted by XKINGX
there are many blocks u ca use but if it doesnt have ls guts it cant be a ls-v and same witht he head. it can be a typr r gsr or b16 head
you can use any b series vtec head on a ls block to make ls/v i think everyone knows that im not an idiot. but depending on what he wants na or boost theres a ton of different heads he can use
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Old May 20, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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Default Re: LS Vtec VS Gsr

ll vtec heads are the same other then the gsr has a up side down intake mani and the typr r has a mild pnp from the factory. and it doesnt have to be a ls block
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Old May 20, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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true, like your engine it just has the ls crank am i correct? but honestly i never liked ls/v id rather start with something bare and build up. but have the ls crank makes for a longer stroke? i had no idea thats some good info if you ask me haha
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Old May 20, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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Default Re: LS Vtec VS Gsr

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ll vtec heads are the same other then the gsr has a up side down intake mani and the typr r has a mild pnp from the factory. and it doesnt have to be a ls block
incorrect, the b16 and type r are similar the gsr has a different combustion chamber providing a small bump in compression. (quenched)
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Old May 20, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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Default Re: LS Vtec VS Gsr

Would you be able to use a b16 block with ls internals to make ls v? From what i see it wouldnt right? a 1.6 block with 1.8 parts?
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Old May 20, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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Default Re: LS Vtec VS Gsr

Originally Posted by known
incorrect, the b16 and type r are similar the gsr has a different combustion chamber providing a small bump in compression. (quenched)
point given.....
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Old May 20, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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Default Re: LS Vtec VS Gsr

Originally Posted by r3v da t3g
Would you be able to use a b16 block with ls internals to make ls v? From what i see it wouldnt right? a 1.6 block with 1.8 parts?
no a b16 block is about 1/2 shorter then a b18 so if u put ls guts in a b16 your piston would meet the head
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Old May 20, 2009 | 09:32 PM
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Default Re: LS Vtec VS Gsr

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true, like your engine it just has the ls crank am i correct? but honestly i never liked ls/v id rather start with something bare and build up. but have the ls crank makes for a longer stroke? i had no idea thats some good info if you ask me haha
kinda sorta. It started as a gsr block then sleeved to 84 mm with cp slugs and manley ls rods with a scat ls crank. ls has a 89 mm stroke which i believe is the longest of all the b series.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 07:04 AM
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Default Re: LS Vtec VS Gsr

Originally Posted by XKINGX
kinda sorta. It started as a gsr block then sleeved to 84 mm with cp slugs and manley ls rods with a scat ls crank. ls has a 89 mm stroke which i believe is the longest of all the b series.
So if i had an ls crank with ctr pistons, that would give more hp than the standard b17 crank. Or would it hit the head since the stroke is longer and ctr pistons have bit of a nose to them you think it would hit the head? or would a triple layer head gasket fix that
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Old May 21, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Default Re: LS Vtec VS Gsr

For my LS vtec build what im getting is internals mostly stock Gsr Head more compression, SiR SHORT gears and b18b basicly grabbing a golden eagle vtec conversation kit and a p28 Chipping ecu Hollla
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Old May 21, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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Default Re: LS Vtec VS Gsr

ls-vtec the block does not have oil the little things that squirt oil so they are less dependable but i guess you can install them on your but i dont know
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