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Old May 8, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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Icon2 hello Type R owners I want to get one but how do I separate real from fake

Hello everybody I was interested in getting a USDM 2000 type R, they're selling it for 13k but since a lot of people build replicas, how do I tell if its a real one. any info you can give will be really helpfull, thank you.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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only true way to know is to check the VIN. also, be sure the VIN's are the same in all the different locations - i'm not sure where they're etched on the vehicle, but i've seen stickers on the hood, hatch, and the plate on the driver's side of the dash by the windshield.

most often, a "fake" will be a GSR with a 5-lug pattern and a wing. once you pop the hood, it's easy to tell the difference between a B18C1 and B18C5 engine (intake manny different, engine code etching, etc). also, 97/98 USDM's only ever came in champ white. 00/01 USDM's only came in yellow/black (CDM's were made in 99, and champ white was an option all the way through the build cycle. also, they have red seats). no sunroof, either.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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whats a 5 lug pattern?
on the wheels i suppose

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Old May 8, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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Check if there's a sunroof. If there isn't, check the rear subframe.

Originally Posted by boardkat
only true way to know is to check the VIN. also, be sure the VIN's are the same in all the different locations - i'm not sure where they're etched on the vehicle, but i've seen stickers on the hood, hatch, and the plate on the driver's side of the dash by the windshield.

most often, a "fake" will be a GSR with a 5-lug pattern and a wing. once you pop the hood, it's easy to tell the difference between a B18C1 and B18C5 engine (intake manny different, engine code etching, etc). also, 97/98 USDM's only ever came in champ white. 00/01 USDM's only came in yellow/black (CDM's were made in 99, and champ white was an option all the way through the build cycle. also, they have red seats). no sunroof, either.
All those parts you're listing aren't what makes a type r and type r. It's the actual chassis. Once you establish that the actual chassis is a type r from what I mentioned above, then go with this guys advice as far as having type r parts.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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VIN Starts with this and only this JH4DC231. that is a true ITR
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Old May 8, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by crx(gator)
VIN Starts with this and only this JH4DC231. that is a true ITR
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Old May 8, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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thanks everybody for your quick answers any other details are welcomed
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Old May 8, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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now im going to be paranoid when i go to buy mine!
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Old May 8, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by crx(gator)
VIN Starts with this and only this JH4DC231. that is a true ITR
And make sure it is stamped on the firewall, the block, and the Tranny! Then you have a legit R chassis with the original powerplant.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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If it has a sunroof then don't buy it. Like the above posts check vin and check the block and head numbers.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Even if the car has the right VIN finding one that is real is the least of your worries. You need to find one that hasn't been pounded on or modified to who knows what.
That's assuming you want one that is original and in good condition.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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If you don't know a real from a fake, you really shouldn't be buying one, because you obviously have no idea what you are getting.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Ok I will try to help with what little I know.

1. The vin begins with JH4DC231
2. No sun roof or cruise control
Please note that it may be a type r but the extras that make it special can be removed and replaced with parts from other integras.

For example. ITR'S have five lug suspension with bigger brakes
The seats are cloth and suede with red stitching.
Rear bumper tie bar
Carbon fiber pieces
The best thing for you to do is do your research online and or have someone who knows what to look for, inspect the car with you. Good luck. But remember if the price is right and the frame is original it can always be rebuilt.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by eluam
If you don't know a real from a fake, you really shouldn't be buying one, because you obviously have no idea what you are getting.
There was a point in time where you didn't know either. That's like saying you shouldn't get In-n-Out if you dont know what the difference is compared to McDonald's. Cheers for being a douche

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Old May 8, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by donut.
There was a point in time where you didn't know either. That's like saying you shouldn't get In-n-Out if you know what the difference is compared to McDonald's. Cheers for being a douche
Are you an idiot? The way to pick out a real from a fake, is everything that makes an ITR an ITR. If you don't know what those things are, you shouldn't be buying one.

Oh wait, I forgot, almost everyone who owns an ITR for performance has left this site. Its just the hard parkers and a few stragglers left.

In that case, don't even worry about getting a real one, just get the one that looks the best and will get you the most points at your local shows.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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LOL, wow dude, WOW
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Old May 8, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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He obviously dosnt know who your are then donut, lmao.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 07:26 PM
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It really doesn't matter to me. The thing that makes me lol is that this little guy is disgruntled because the OP is asking tell tale signs from a R and non-R. He says: "If you don't know a real from a fake, you really shouldn't be buying one" as if everyone was born knowing or something. It's also a pretty cocky remark as if owning an R and tracking it adds inches to your dick, and gives you the right to belittle people. The maturity level is astounding!
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Old May 8, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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What do you expect though dude, its honda-tech, where all douche's come and proclame their retarted ego. Its kind of sad. The man was just asking a question. Then again he could of just used the search tab as well eh? Lol
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Old May 8, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by donut.
It really doesn't matter to me. The thing that makes me lol is that this little guy is disgruntled because the OP is asking tell tale signs from a R and non-R. He says: "If you don't know a real from a fake, you really shouldn't be buying one" as if everyone was born knowing or something. It's also a pretty cocky remark as if owning an R and tracking it adds inches to your dick, and gives you the right to belittle people. The maturity level is astounding!
My dick has tripled in length since tracking my ITR. Thanks for noticing.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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I still cant see mine and I have 2

haha jk !

I love these threads that pop up
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Old May 8, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by eluam
My dick has tripled in length since tracking my ITR. Thanks for noticing.
Chris, you serious man? Cmon you are better than that. donut. is a respectable person. Not all "OG's" have left this site. In fact, there are more here than "over there".
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Old May 8, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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There has been some real asinine comments from many people.
step back, take a breathe.

To help the OP, here are two links that should be of use.
http://itrsport.com/
http://itrca.com/FAQ/faq.php
Btw there are a few single owner ITRs out there around $13k... keep looking & don't settle on the first one you see.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by itr#1334
If it has a sunroof then don't buy it. Like the above posts check vin and check the block and head numbers.
or pay less for it. a gsr shell itr fake will fetch 7k or so

this means complete ITR swap, good suspension, big brakes etc
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Old May 9, 2009 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by boardkat
only true way to know is to check the VIN. also, be sure the VIN's are the same in all the different locations - i'm not sure where they're etched on the vehicle, but i've seen stickers on the hood, hatch, and the plate on the driver's side of the dash by the windshield.

most often, a "fake" will be a GSR with a 5-lug pattern and a wing. once you pop the hood, it's easy to tell the difference between a B18C1 and B18C5 engine (intake manny different, engine code etching, etc). also, 97/98 USDM's only ever came in champ white. 00/01 USDM's only came in yellow/black (CDM's were made in 99, and champ white was an option all the way through the build cycle. also, they have red seats). no sunroof, either.
its hard to say a gsr is a type r when it has a sun roof

easy way is to see the title
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