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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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okay so this is what i saw after i did my head gasket change, and had everything together when i took the valve cover off and the oil was milky. from what i read it says water/coolant mixed with the oil thats why its milky? i didn't drive the car at all just started it for probly 15 mins at most..is it possible it could be a cracked block/head or something thats what i saw somebody say too?...so what do you guys think the most likely problem it'll be? did i crack the block/head whatever..also b4 the head gasket change the oil was fine regular and all. let me know what yall think thanks! i just drained out my oil it was all milky....like coffee..
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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anyone?
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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did you torque the head bolts down right? did you even use a torque wrench?
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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there are so many possibilities... when you changed the head gasket was the head resurfaced? was the deck on the block good? did you put the head gasket on correctly.. what did you torque it down too? was it proper sequence..
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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there are so many possibilities... when you changed the head gasket was the head resurfaced? was the deck on the block good? did you put the head gasket on correctly.. what did you torque it down too? was it proper sequence..
no i did not resurface. you only need to do that when it is warp..and i don't think mines was warp..idk if the deck on the block was good or not? how do you know if its bad?. and yes i did put the head gasket on properly. i torqued it down to 62lb i think it was..thats what they say the torque spec was for b18c1's a friend said that. and others say different as in higher.. but we did 62.
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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did you torque the head bolts down right? did you even use a torque wrench?
yes it was toruqe down in the right sequence..and yes i did use a torque wrench..
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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i also looked in my radiator...and saw oil floating on top of the radiator..as in not oil oil but like clear oil you know..
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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idk, what i'm gonna do..i might just pour new oil in and see if it will still be milky or not..and change the radiator fluid out...
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Did you change the oil when you did the head gasket. And you should always resurface the head when you take the head off...
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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no i did not resurface. you only need to do that when it is warp..and i don't think mines was warp..idk if the deck on the block was good or not? how do you know if its bad?. and yes i did put the head gasket on properly. i torqued it down to 62lb i think it was..thats what they say the torque spec was for b18c1's a friend said that. and others say different as in higher.. but we did 62.
by you saying you "don't think" yours was warped, you already gave the answer.. i believe its supposed to be 63 ft lbs in two steps..

9 5 1 3 7
8 4 2 6 10

did you go in that order... right out of the VTEC section of service manual? its always good the check the deck of the block.. if the top of the block is not decked properly you can mix oil and coolant.. or blow head gaskets..
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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Does anybody know why the radiator hoes would suck in flat?
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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Did you change the oil when you did the head gasket. And you should always resurface the head when you take the head off...
i didnt think that it was a requirement really. because...i saw this guy did a sohc..and he didnt so i didnt. and plus the head gasket change i changed it becuz it was just still leaking...i did the headgasket change like 1 month before i took the motor apart then i waited all winter and did it when it was warmer again...and yes i drained all the oil...was milky..i just hope that when i pour new one in sometimes this week it won't still be doing this
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JDMInteg96
by you saying you "don't think" yours was warped, you already gave the answer.. i believe its supposed to be 63 ft lbs in two steps..

9 5 1 3 7
8 4 2 6 10

did you go in that order... right out of the VTEC section of service manual? its always good the check the deck of the block.. if the top of the block is not decked properly you can mix oil and coolant.. or blow head gaskets..
hrm i think it should be good still. don't know much about that stuff..and i'm pretty sure it isn't warp..the first time we did the head gasket changed..we didnt torque it enough..because we didnt use a torque wrench...and thats why i took it off cuz it was still leaking. and yes we did do it in 2 steps..can i just redo it? again the torque-ing down? if i take it apart again with the same headgasket?..and not take off the head what so ever..and just check it or do it again? what yall think?
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Does anybody know why the radiator hoes would suck in flat?
get some stronger ones.
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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has anyone had this happen b4? and what did u do? let me know..
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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you're first clue was the headgasket failed on a gsr. personally i have never seen it happen without either A: boost B: a warped block C: warped head. the blocks are famous for warping over time. yet another clue would have been when you tore the engine down and found the source of your problem. if you just randomly put on a new HG without figuring out why the last one failed no one is going to feel sorry for you. what you did is waste time and money on another lesson in engine building.
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 11:44 PM
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you're first clue was the headgasket failed on a gsr. personally i have never seen it happen without either A: boost B: a warped block C: warped head. the blocks are famous for warping over time. yet another clue would have been when you tore the engine down and found the source of your problem. if you just randomly put on a new HG without figuring out why the last one failed no one is going to feel sorry for you. what you did is waste time and money on another lesson in engine building.
if u didnt read what i said. i said i took it back apart because it was still leaking after i did the headgasket change..because we did not torque it down enough..and thats why i took it apart before winter..so now after winter was over with and warmer weather came i put it back together with a new hg..the reason the first head gasket[when i bought the car] failed was because the seals on it were blown; the seals on the cylinders or something...so i did another one and it wasn't torque to specs because we didnt use a torque wrench..
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 11:46 PM
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so i d k...i'm gonna go get new oil...and try and see if it'll still be milky=/ if it is then i'll have to tear it down again....ahhh...
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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this thread haven't reallly helped me much at all. but to what i think is...that when i had the head off the oil/coolant mixed..because i saw oil outside in the cylinder walls..
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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idk, i'm confused with it...really
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 12:25 AM
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it's very simple. you have a leak. what caused it can be found when you pull it apart. chances are you will have tracers between cylinders. if the gasket is still good you have a warped block or warped head. in most engines the head warps. on the b18c the deck often does. this means the engine comes out and you pay $50 to have a few thousands taken off the deck with an ultra fine RA diamond cutter so your MLS gasket seals right. if you pull .007 off both the head and deck you will have a total of .014 shaved which shouldn't cause any weird cam timing issues. just to correct it you could run a .039 HG and go right back to stock, or you could use the OEM gasket and gain compression. these MLS gaskets do not fail without a reason. warpage is the #1 cause. if you had a good pic of both sides of your HG, your block close up in the cylinders from the top and the head i could probably tell you what the problem is. so could a few of the other guys.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 08:38 AM
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i concurr... head warpage or block warpage is not a good problem... not fun at all
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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There can been many things that could've happenend that we don't know about...frankly I think that your car over heated, and caused your gasket to blow...then you replaced it, but for got to resurface....You must always resurface, and check your work with a stright edge....
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by idrivesideways
it's very simple. you have a leak. what caused it can be found when you pull it apart. chances are you will have tracers between cylinders. if the gasket is still good you have a warped block or warped head. in most engines the head warps. on the b18c the deck often does. this means the engine comes out and you pay $50 to have a few thousands taken off the deck with an ultra fine RA diamond cutter so your MLS gasket seals right. if you pull .007 off both the head and deck you will have a total of .014 shaved which shouldn't cause any weird cam timing issues. just to correct it you could run a .039 HG and go right back to stock, or you could use the OEM gasket and gain compression. these MLS gaskets do not fail without a reason. warpage is the #1 cause. if you had a good pic of both sides of your HG, your block close up in the cylinders from the top and the head i could probably tell you what the problem is. so could a few of the other guys.
yes thanks for the advice and words..and help...i was going to take a pic but then was like nah shouldn't be a problem...but then i don't know maybe i'll take a pic when i get it off again this weekend. my friends will be there so they know more and everything so maybe it'll be working this weekend i hope..i will take pics when i have it apart this weekend though to show yall..
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