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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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Default Are there fake JDM Type R fronts?

I am just curious but don't get me wrong, most of the cars with Type R front ends on HT look clean and a few on craigslist. But when it comes those sellers on craigslist selling their JDM front Integra, it looks funny or just out of place.

My friend sent me this pic and told me he was going to take a look at it in his area. Let's take this image for example:



Looks out of place doesn't it? I've seen a few integra's around my area that looks similar to that one but really close to authenic, just looks funny or the installer did a really crappy alignment job.

So are there really fake JDM front ends? How can I identify if one is real? (assuming it hasn't been assembled yet)
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Default Re: Are there fake JDM Type R fronts?

Also it'd be great if someone can post more "fake" jdm integra fronts if there are any so we can compare.
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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yes there is fake fronts..
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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oem are metal, fake are fiberglass.
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by wannabe_itr
oem are metal, fake are fiberglass.
OEM are made of metal??? if anything i thought OEM was polyurethane...
correct me if i'm wrong.

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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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Default Re: Are there fake JDM Type R fronts?

the OEM fenders and hood are metal and the bumper is polyurethane.
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by EvenStar
Looks out of place doesn't it? I've seen a few integra's around my area that looks similar to that one but really close to authenic, just looks funny or the installer did a really crappy alignment job.

It could be fake but it could also be real but who ever fitted it done it blind folded in the dark with one arm in a sling...ie half assed ghetto job!
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ITR525
OEM are made of metal??? if anything i thought OEM was polyurethane...
correct me if i'm wrong.
i didnt think i had to clearify that oem bumber obiviously arent metal but all other panels are
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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I think the above could be real but it's just been poorly put togeather. Nothing lines up right and i think with the ITR lip it wouldn't look so "out of place".

How to spot a fake, tap the fenders i guess. You would be able to tell if they are metal or fibreglass. Same with the front bumper, you would be able to tell if it was plastic or fibreglass.
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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lol terrible alignment. no lip makes it look kinda funky
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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A lot of jdm fronts are put on cars that have had front end damage. If the support and frame rails are not perfect the fitment will be off if you use OEM or aftermarket parts.
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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Do you have to weld the rad. support on to do the conversion?
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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Do you have to weld the rad. support on to do the conversion?

It is recommended but I remember someone doing it with just bolts and nuts
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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rad supports are just that rad supports.
they dont have to be welded if you put the right about of screw in the right places it will fit 100 percent and wont shift etc either.

there are fakes that are fibreglass
there are real that are metal

only way to see if its fake or real is to actually examine the parts ie. magnet, feel, etc..
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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whoa hold up i dont think thats right... u do know the car flexes
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Tight R
rad supports are just that rad supports.
they dont have to be welded if you put the right about of screw in the right places it will fit 100 percent and wont shift etc either.

there are fakes that are fibreglass
there are real that are metal

only way to see if its fake or real is to actually examine the parts ie. magnet, feel, etc..
not true. Bolted is definitely LESS stiff than if you were to weld it to the frame. your car is constantly bending/flexing, bolting it may end up aligning well, but its not going to be as strong or shift less than welding it.

OEM Fenders/Hood = Metal
OEM Bumper = Polyurethane

I dont know what you mean by fake, but if youre talking about front bumpers made of other materials, then there are fiberglass, carbon fiber, etc... All of them have their relative prices obviously.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by dohcvtak
whoa hold up i dont think thats right... u do know the car flexes
doesnt matter if the car flexes. like any other car the structure of the car is the frame not the exterior skin. you can drive without doors, roof skin, quater skin, fenders, bumpers, re-bars and the car will still drive and not fall apart. the rad support is a 18 gauge piece of THIN metal. if your telling me its holding up the car then you should seriously consider another car....simply for safety reasons.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by goota
not true. Bolted is definitely LESS stiff than if you were to weld it to the frame. your car is constantly bending/flexing, bolting it may end up aligning well, but its not going to be as strong or shift less than welding it.

OEM Fenders/Hood = Metal
OEM Bumper = Polyurethane

I dont know what you mean by fake, but if youre talking about front bumpers made of other materials, then there are fiberglass, carbon fiber, etc... All of them have their relative prices obviously.
before making a statement like 'not true' please make sure you know what your talking about. have you ever driven a car without a front radsupport? have you even take off a radsupport off? do you have any autobody experience or even a licence to perform autobody tech? i have all of the mentioned for the past 10 years and done it hundreds of times. the frame rail runs parallel vertically and is attached to the body UNDER the floor of the car (unibody design). It is a box design frame made out of really strong metal. there will be ZERO movement on the frame by the time it reaches up to the radsupport because of the way its designed and placed. screwing down a radsupport it the right places will not cause any "SHIFT" how can it exactly unless there is play in between the screw and the holes which i dont understand why there would be if they are meant to take a specific size screw.

btw fake means NOT authentic/replica/forgery

and NO not the bumper I am talking about I am talking about the fenders and hood. which are also replicated in fibreglass and cf NOT because they are lighter but because they are CHEAPER then the real DEAL OEM.!!
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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Its not really fake JDM Type R Fronts its just that it depends on the trim level of the car that the front was taken front e.g. Integra S.I.R. Regular Integra,etc.... i think the one in the pic is a S.I.R. one thou...
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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all the fakes fit like ***. seen one personally.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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Well if anybody kno a website or where 2 get a fake front let me kno
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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if i knew i wouldn't let you know...just to keep the garbage out of the streets.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Tight R
before making a statement like 'not true' please make sure you know what your talking about. have you ever driven a car without a front radsupport? have you even take off a radsupport off? do you have any autobody experience or even a licence to perform autobody tech? i have all of the mentioned for the past 10 years and done it hundreds of times. the frame rail runs parallel vertically and is attached to the body UNDER the floor of the car (unibody design). It is a box design frame made out of really strong metal. there will be ZERO movement on the frame by the time it reaches up to the radsupport because of the way its designed and placed. screwing down a radsupport it the right places will not cause any "SHIFT" how can it exactly unless there is play in between the screw and the holes which i dont understand why there would be if they are meant to take a specific size screw.

btw fake means NOT authentic/replica/forgery

and NO not the bumper I am talking about I am talking about the fenders and hood. which are also replicated in fibreglass and cf NOT because they are lighter but because they are CHEAPER then the real DEAL OEM.!!
hey no need to get defensive man, I do have autobody experience although i do not have a license for it.
All im saying is that although you may be able to drive and operate the vehicle fine, the car will experience different loads as a result of using bolts versus welding. How much you FEEL those differences I cant say, I haven't driven a car with a bolted or no rad support. its funny actually, I need to replace my rad support too, I guess ill try out this bolting business.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Tight R
before making a statement like 'not true' please make sure you know what your talking about. have you ever driven a car without a front radsupport? have you even take off a radsupport off? do you have any autobody experience or even a licence to perform autobody tech? i have all of the mentioned for the past 10 years and done it hundreds of times. the frame rail runs parallel vertically and is attached to the body UNDER the floor of the car (unibody design). It is a box design frame made out of really strong metal. there will be ZERO movement on the frame by the time it reaches up to the radsupport because of the way its designed and placed. screwing down a radsupport it the right places will not cause any "SHIFT" how can it exactly unless there is play in between the screw and the holes which i dont understand why there would be if they are meant to take a specific size screw.

btw fake means NOT authentic/replica/forgery

and NO not the bumper I am talking about I am talking about the fenders and hood. which are also replicated in fibreglass and cf NOT because they are lighter but because they are CHEAPER then the real DEAL OEM.!!

Dude you are completely wrong or do not know hondas. Bolting up the front rad support will cause the front end to twist period. I see this happen many times to people that bolt up there front ends. End results are the hood rubbing the fender, headlights hitting the fenders. And if you are auto x or drag racing. You are for in world of trouble. If bolting up the front end was good. DOn't you think honda would of did this from the start. Its not so honda did not do it. Anybody thinking of bolting up a front end is lazy and will pay twice for paint and labor.
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