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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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What would be the best solution to put into a 1995 LS?
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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this is wayyy to general of a question...what are your plans for the car? for the motor? hp goals? fi or na? theres a lot of stuff to think about...

better motor for NA- h22a, b20b for fi.
just as good as the NA h22a is a b20vtec.

Best of both worlds, b20vtec turbo.

list your power goals and what plan on getting out of the motor and you will get more help.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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this is wayyy to general of a question...what are your plans for the car? for the motor? hp goals? fi or na? theres a lot of stuff to think about...

better motor for NA- h22a, b20b for fi.
just as good as the NA h22a is a b20vtec.

Best of both worlds, b20vtec turbo.

And your budget

list your power goals and what plan on getting out of the motor and you will get more help.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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yea budget is also important, unless you have money out of the *** and dont care about cost at all...but usually a budget is important in a build...

good addition spooledbseries...
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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Budget is where you should start off.
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 06:18 AM
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I'm working with about 6 grand, and i am thinking about boost. the car will just be a pretty quick daily driver in the summer, and garaged in the winter. I just want to know what would be the best solution motor wise because i have them both at my disposal at the moment
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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If you go Boost, and you have 6 grand, why not just build up a b18 for boost, then turbo it? It would be a Waste IMO to put in an h22 and then boost it. For a daily driver, boosting an h22 and putting it in a Teg is just pointless.

My vote=b18 with boost, or b18c1 or b18c5 for that budget, 6 grand is A lot.

Matter of fact, I'd swap in a b18c5, adn get the car LOOKING mint. But its Your car.
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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6 grand, build a b18b or b20b and turbo it. even if its just 12-15 psi, it should be pretty nice on the street.

there is no way you will be able to swap a b18c5 and still have money left over to finish the complete car aesthetically...
An itr motor usually runs about $4500-$5500 depending on where you get it...for that money you can also consider a k20a. But you did say the "simplest" of swaps".

Easy way to make your car reliable, swap a b18b, b20b, b16a, b18c1 and still have some money left over...

Easy way to make your car reliable and fast, built b18b or b20b, a nice quality turbo setup....

good luck
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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Swap in a k series. You'll love it. If you end up with extra money, look into k-pro and some bolt-ons...

K20A2 Type S Complete swap is $4k from www.hmotorsonline.com
+$450 for Hasport mounts
+$300 for the Hasport axle kit
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So you'd have about a grand to play with if $6k is seriously your budget.
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ngswimmer08
Swap in a k series. You'll love it. If you end up with extra money, look into k-pro and some bolt-ons...

K20A2 Type S Complete swap is $4k from www.hmotorsonline.com
+$450 for Hasport mounts
+$300 for the Hasport axle kit
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So you'd have about a grand to play with if $6k is seriously your budget.
Great idea.... OP, If you really are going to dump in 6k, you can build a seriously bad *** Integra. H22 and B20 are TERRIBLE ideas with a budget that large. Also, you said it was a Daily Driver, so 12-15 PSI is out the window. You want it to be reliable, why not b18c5 or k20a2?
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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those are definitely good suggestions. i do want some money to play with after the swap, so maybe the k-series wont be the most profitable. because it will cost to get put in. so it probably will be the B20b. thanks for the help
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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If you get a b20b, get it from www.hmotorsonline.com they probably have it the cheapest.
DO NOT buy the engine from a shop. A local engine repair shop quoted me over $2,500 just for the engine!

Also...the b20 has thin unified sleeves so be careful boosting it. You should be fine around the 7psi range with a decent tune. With the b20 + turbo, you will have plenty of money to spare, assuming you don't fall into paying for labor.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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b20 is the most hideous Idea I've ever heard. You fail, OP, you fail.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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I would just put some 81.5 cp piston and eagle rods in your ls block with a b16 head then turbo it and you will still have money left
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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I got my JDM 9:6:1 CR B20 from HMO for 750 plus shipping.. Best bang for the buck hands down IMO. It has more torque and displacement than a GSR motor and RUNS ON REGULAR!

Although its questionable for boosted applications... its a risk cause of the not weak like most people say, but less resilient cylinder walls as a normal b18 engine.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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All of this is so bad for a daily driver. I dont understand why you cant just swap in a b18c1, build it up a bit, and then enjoy it?
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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go with the b20
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by wegotmorrison
Great idea.... OP, If you really are going to dump in 6k, you can build a seriously bad *** Integra. H22 and B20 are TERRIBLE ideas with a budget that large. Also, you said it was a Daily Driver, so 12-15 PSI is out the window. You want it to be reliable, why not b18c5 or k20a2?
uhh...12-15 psi on a built ls or b20 block is perfectly streetable, and very realiable. a stock gsr block can hold about 10 psi or about 300whp before you need rebuilding or run into problems. The b18b or b20b can hold about 12 psi or so (psi depending on the turbo of course) and is good for about 250-275whp...

You cant get better than that for a daily driver, a reliable boost setup will own NA any day...and with that budget he has the ability to build the motor up to the point where it can handle the boost...and not cause problems....

Not to mention it would be a lot more fun to drive....

For the money you would spend on a STOCK k series swap, it is not worth it...for that same money, it is cost effective to build a b18b, b20b or even a b18c1, from the ground up, along with a turbo kit, something of good quality like Peakboost, AFI, or Turbonetics. That would not only be more fun to drive, but would have the power you would like, and then some.
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JdmTypeRdc2
uhh...12-15 psi on a built ls or b20 block is perfectly streetable, and very realiable. a stock gsr block can hold about 10 psi or about 300whp before you need rebuilding or run into problems. The b18b or b20b can hold about 12 psi or so (psi depending on the turbo of course) and is good for about 250-275whp...

You cant get better than that for a daily driver, a reliable boost setup will own NA any day...and with that budget he has the ability to build the motor up to the point where it can handle the boost...and not cause problems....

Not to mention it would be a lot more fun to drive....

For the money you would spend on a STOCK k series swap, it is not worth it...for that same money, it is cost effective to build a b18b, b20b or even a b18c1, from the ground up, along with a turbo kit, something of good quality like Peakboost, AFI, or Turbonetics. That would not only be more fun to drive, but would have the power you would like, and then some.

haha b20 with 15 PSI is perfectly reliable and streetable, huh? I guess we have 2 different definitions of both.
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