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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 07:06 AM
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Default 96 civic rear quarter panel removal??

does any1 know how to remove both rear quarter panels of a 96 civic?
both my qtr panels are buckled and i will be buying 2 from this guy who is parting out a civic.
and so the shop wont charge me much, i want to remove them and install them and prime them.
so can any1 post a diagram or link on how to remove the panels?
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i found how to do it to an EH but not an EK
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...+quarter+panel

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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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Default Re: 96 civic rear quarter panel removal??

that link is for removing the trim panels not the actual rear quarter panel

you will need to remove the rear quarter glass then remove the seam sealer from the edges and a spot weld bit to drill out all the spot welds....this is not an easy task for someone that is asking how to do it on a forum
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by VW-Convert
that link is for removing the trim panels not the actual rear quarter panel

you will need to remove the rear quarter glass then remove the seam sealer from the edges and a spot weld bit to drill out all the spot welds....this is not an easy task for someone that is asking how to do it on a forum
well every1 has got to start some where. and this is where im starting from.
how do i remove the glass?
and where can i get the spot weld bit?
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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buy the proper helms manual for the car and go from there, if your to cheap to buy it thats your own fault. I understand its nice to have pics and info from someone whos actually done it and there is nothing wrong with that, but get the shop manual and with the two put together you'll be fine. Good luck.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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buy the proper helms manual for the car and go from there, if your to cheap to buy it thats your own fault. I understand its nice to have pics and info from someone whos actually done it and there is nothing wrong with that, but get the shop manual and with the two put together you'll be fine. Good luck.
i have been trying to buy it for quite some time. and it seems where ever i go, they dont have any.
i have been to 3 barnes and nobles and they did not have it
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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i have been trying to buy it for quite some time. and it seems where ever i go, they dont have any.
i have been to 3 barnes and nobles and they did not have it
barnes and noble isn't going to carry shop manuals for every car, go to the helm website and you'll have it in a week tops. best 60 bucks you ever spent when it comes to your car
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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barnes and noble isn't going to carry shop manuals for every car, go to the helm website and you'll have it in a week tops. best 60 bucks you ever spent when it comes to your car
alrighty
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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im not sure the helms will help you with actually removing the quarter panel(sheetmetal)

anywhooo... you can go to any autobody supply store and pick up spot-weld drill bits, there are several different types, ask what they recommend, for your project

as for the rear quarter window, you can either buy the tool to remove it, or have a glass guy do it, they arent too bad to remove but if its your first time you might scratch/break it, my window guy usually charges $40 and thats for removal and reinstall when your done
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by VW-Convert
im not sure the helms will help you with actually removing the quarter panel(sheetmetal)

anywhooo... you can go to any autobody supply store and pick up spot-weld drill bits, there are several different types, ask what they recommend, for your project

as for the rear quarter window, you can either buy the tool to remove it, or have a glass guy do it, they arent too bad to remove but if its your first time you might scratch/break it, my window guy usually charges $40 and thats for removal and reinstall when your done
yea i was thinking that helms wouldnt help me since thats all technical. this is sheet metal.
but yea.
any1 know where i can access the spot welds?
are they behind it?
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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your spot welds are all along the edges, most likely under seam sealer... i'll try and find a pic

***i searched real quick and didnt come up with any pics worth showing you...

im off to bed

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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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your spot welds are all along the edges, most likely under seam sealer... i'll try and find a pic

***i searched real quick and didnt come up with any pics worth showing you...

im off to bed
thats ok. i know what you mean. i have to remove the seam sealer with an iron brush thing.
then the spot welds will show. then i use a spot weld remover bit.
but i cant seem to find all of the spot welds. are they like a certain distance apart?
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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Your not looking hard enough. Word of advice if you cant even find the spot welds dont attempt to do this. Pay someone because you are going to make your car into a disaster. Just being honest.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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Your not looking hard enough. Word of advice if you cant even find the spot welds dont attempt to do this. Pay someone because you are going to make your car into a disaster. Just being honest.
i know where they are at in the trunk area. just not by the doors.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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inside the doors you have to rmeove the door seal and youll see them. then there should be a seam going straight across the jam and youll have to either cut it and then flange it to fit the new quarter. youll also have them behind the taillight and in the wheel well. I've replaced atleast 7 quarters before, and im telling you its not an easy task. When you drill out the spot you have to make sure you dont drill through the inner panel, because if you do you wont have anything to weld the new panel to. Im glad that your not afraid to learn new things but you have to knwo your limitations. Dont be afraid to admitt you just cant do it. Trust me it will be cheaper to get them replaced before you tough then when you go to get them replaced after the fact. It a lot more work than you think. If you really want to do this I atleast suggest find someone that willing to help that know how to do this or try to watch videos on how to change. i know they make them becuase i had to watch them al the time in school
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inside the doors you have to rmeove the door seal and youll see them. then there should be a seam going straight across the jam and youll have to either cut it and then flange it to fit the new quarter. youll also have them behind the taillight and in the wheel well. I've replaced atleast 7 quarters before, and im telling you its not an easy task. When you drill out the spot you have to make sure you dont drill through the inner panel, because if you do you wont have anything to weld the new panel to. Im glad that your not afraid to learn new things but you have to knwo your limitations. Dont be afraid to admitt you just cant do it. Trust me it will be cheaper to get them replaced before you tough then when you go to get them replaced after the fact. It a lot more work than you think. If you really want to do this I atleast suggest find someone that willing to help that know how to do this or try to watch videos on how to change. i know they make them becuase i had to watch them al the time in school
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by slammedk24
inside the doors you have to rmeove the door seal and youll see them. then there should be a seam going straight across the jam and youll have to either cut it and then flange it to fit the new quarter. youll also have them behind the taillight and in the wheel well. I've replaced atleast 7 quarters before, and im telling you its not an easy task. When you drill out the spot you have to make sure you dont drill through the inner panel, because if you do you wont have anything to weld the new panel to. Im glad that your not afraid to learn new things but you have to knwo your limitations. Dont be afraid to admitt you just cant do it. Trust me it will be cheaper to get them replaced before you tough then when you go to get them replaced after the fact. It a lot more work than you think. If you really want to do this I atleast suggest find someone that willing to help that know how to do this or try to watch videos on how to change. i know they make them becuase i had to watch them al the time in school
yes i know it is alot of work. but i am willing to do it. i know what my limitations are and this will exceed them by far. but i am also not afraid to try new things. and the more i do the more i learn.
thank you for the help though.
really helped me
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 03:33 AM
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Alright, i dont know if your doing this right know, but if you are Ill try to keep an eye on this thread so I can help you out if needed
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 08:17 AM
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Alright, i dont know if your doing this right know, but if you are Ill try to keep an eye on this thread so I can help you out if needed
lol no. im actually going to start to work on it after the insurance company gives me a check
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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hopefully i can start removing the rear qrt panels by this week or next week.
how long will it take to remove both quarter panels and spot weld the new ones on??
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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Are the quarters buckled from an accident? The new quarters aren't going to help if the car is tweaked
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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Are the quarters buckled from an accident? The new quarters aren't going to help if the car is tweaked
yes they bucked in the accident.
what do you mean that they wont work if the car is tweeked?
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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yes they bucked in the accident.
what do you mean that they wont work if the car is tweeked?

if the structure/side sills underneath the superficial outside quarter panels are ****ed up than the new ones won't line up and the car probably needs to be put on a frame machine.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by b18cKoupe
if the structure/side sills underneath the superficial outside quarter panels are ****ed up than the new ones won't line up and the car probably needs to be put on a frame machine.
wtf?!
are you serious?
well i dont think that the frame is bent.
the truck that hit me was lifted so like 99% of the damage was taken
to the trunk and quarter panels.
the bumper just has some scuff marks.
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if its buckled man chances are there will be some sort of damage under the quarter panel that will need to be fixed in order to get the new QP to fit properly. Pics would help
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Originally Posted by precisionsc54
if its buckled man chances are there will be some sort of damage under the quarter panel that will need to be fixed in order to get the new QP to fit properly. Pics would help
pics of the qt panel?
either way ill post pics of both qt panels and the trunk as well.
but i think they buckled because the guys bumper went and hit my trunk and both sides
next to the trunk. and the force caused the qt panels to buckle. but thats my idea what happened. but i will post pics tomorrow
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