Has anybody else ran this motor or have a similar setup?? What kind of #'s did you make if you built your own setup?? I want something different out there for my next build. I know there's the poor man's set but this setup is the opposite. Anybody??

 

Have no clue what you're talking about

 

I know there's the poor man's type r build which consist of a GSR block & B16 head mated together. But I was just curious about the KINGS MOTORSPORTS build which consists of the opposite (B16 Block & GSR Head). So I was just wondering if anyone else has done this not so common build. That's all. Sorry if it sounds complicating. Don't want to get flamed by all you Gear Heads on here. Just wanted to hear some good Pro's & Con's and see what kind of #'s people are making with this type of build. Thanks

 

pro: gsr head gives you a tad more compreession with no flow loss.

con: still a 1.6

 

why is this build hardly used though?? is it one of those "underdog" motors to build because of it's uniqueness of being opposite??

 

You mean a 1.6

There's nothing magical about the combination. It'll yield a slightly higher CR. It won't be anything superbly performing as compared to a normal B16.

"Poor Man's Type R" isn't anything special in itself (you say it's a B16 head on a GSR block -- and with them in stock form, I personally would never use that combination). That term has been thrown around so many times, I really don't know what it refers to.

Do some research before asking questions that have to do with topics you know absolutely nothing about and expect us to magically have an idea of what you're asking.

 

Poster above you sir are a retard. A poorman's type r consist of a b16 head on a gsr block. A type r motor is basically a gsr bottom end with a b16 head. The only difference is that the intake ports on an itr head were ported from the factory. Also an itr head has a more agressive camshaft setup. An to top it all off a b16 head is the same casting as an itr head pr3. So if you were to take a b16 head port the intake side an install itr or skunk2 pro1's in it you pretty much have an itr head. Then mate that to a gsr block an poof you have an itr motor for half the cost.

The king motorsports super b16 setup this dude is refering to is the combination of a b16 stock bottom end mated to a stock gsr head. All that setup is going to do is increase the engine's compression because of the smaller quench area that the gsr head has. There will also be a more agressive cam setup on that motor just as the poor man's type r setup. Im unsure if there would be an increase in horsepower because the bottom end would still be a 1.6liter not a 1.8liter like the gsr is.

I hope that clear's up some thing's with some factual information.

 

pro1's???

 

I was refering to using the Skunk 2 pro series stage one camshaft's. You can install integra type r camshaft's in your b16 head but you will gain more horsepower if you use the skunk2 pro 1's. Me personally since im cheap id just use the integra type r's. Why spend 500bux on cams when you can get itr's for 150.

 

maybe they went for the better r/s ratio the b16 bottom end has over the gsr and maybe they went with the gsr head cause its better when it comes to detonation and **** who knows/cares?

conclusion: that motor is wayy over priced and not worth it!

 

The compression would be a lot less, so you still wouldn't have an itr...

 

imo this is quite pointless you still have the torque of a 1.6 although the higher compression is a plus but not a significant difference

 

Yeah whatever, so many things wrong w/this.

Using any head on a stock gsr block will not run like an itr with the p72 pistons.

"So if you were to take a b16 head port the intake side an install itr or skunk2 pro1's in it you pretty much have an itr head.". LMAO!!! WOW! what does a set of Pro1's have anything to do with an itr setup??

And as far as your "slightly more aggressive cams" using the gsr head on the b16 block
is translated to hardly noticable by anyone that knows anything about interchanging b16/gsr cams.

You need to seriously check yourself and not clown people that know more than you.
Btw its in clear in your little paragraphs there that you think you know more than you do.

 

wow....

So, what about the difference in pistons? You do know the ITR and GSR don't share the same bottom end right?

And Pro 1's? LOL!!! WTF man?

Next time, just don't respond.

 

Thanks for some info guys..I'll just stick with my original plan and just going all out with my 00 JDM ITR motor...

 

And I'M the retarded one? You wouldn't know how to put a package together if I had it IN FRONT of you!

You obviously don't know what you're talking about. This "poorman's TYPE R" combination that you talk about is a WASTE. I KNOW what people have called "Poor Man's Type R"...I've also seen quite a few variations...so, the terminology really doesn't mean anything to me. You obviously had no clue what I was referring to when I stated I'd never use that combination, personally.

How about I educate you:
1. I happen to be of the opinion, along with plenty of builders, that the P72 has a superior combustion chamber geometry. WHY would you use a PR3 (non ITR) casting when the P72 is better (we can argue this all day -- noone will win on which is better)
2. Using the P72 yields a higher CR. You want to produce MORE compression to make more power....not less. You're obviously disregarding the part the pistons have to play in this matter....

Maybe the setup would make more power WITH ITR/CTR cams or a more aggressive cam..but you never even mentioned camshafts. Anyone who knows anything about B-Series heads knows the majority of the increase in performance from an ITR head comes from THE CAMSHAFTS. The rest of the increase comes from the porting from Honda. You never even mentioned putting any kind of port work on the B16 head. You could arguably get BETTER results if you took the time to put your little port work on the P72 head, instead.

Guess what I'm saying is "Why would you take off a head to replace it with one that is arguably inferior?" I guess if you had some parts laying around and wanted to put something together...sure. But I don't understand why someone would purposefully put that combination together.

If you want to go ahead and swap cams AND put the slight port on the head AND go with P73 pistons (you didn't even mention this, earlier), WHY would you start with the PR3 head? ITR pistons, ITR cams, and a slight port on a GSR head would be a better package.

So, stick that in your juicebox and suck it!

 

thumb in

 

Idiot, this thread is 2 years old.

 

oh welll u bong whole

 

Lmao

 

great 10th post...

 

BOOOOOO!!

 

Ah bumping multi year old threads for no reason, never gets old

 

i love it lets keep it goin lol

 

please no, just no.