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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 09:09 PM
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when building the b20 vtech shoud i use a b16 head or a gsr head?
also is this a risky build? does the block need to be built to be reliable??
any advice would be nice!
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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Head choice...let me ask you these questions:

Would you like 6 doughnuts or half a dozen?
Would you like a cup of milk or a half-pint?

As for the other ones:

Do you always ask to be spoon-fed information that is readily available in a forum, or did you just choose to grace us with it, today?
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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Advice: spend a week or 2 reading through build threads that are stickied at the top of this forum.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 01:46 AM
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Why do you dude's have to be *******'s? Is there a sticky for that? Seriously if you know the answer just post it. It doesnt take any more time to explain something than it does with an ******* reply. An to the op go with a b16 head.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by almostboostedgsr
Why do you dude's have to be *******'s? Is there a sticky for that? Seriously if you know the answer just post it. It doesnt take any more time to explain something than it does with an ******* reply. An to the op go with a b16 head.

your post is just as worthless. Why should he go with the b16 head over the GSR head? Enlighten us.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by thatkidfishvr4
does the block need to be built to be reliable??

no, can be built to crappy.

Dont bother looking around, there actually is no write up for an unreliable motor.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by thatkidfishvr4
when building the b20 vtech shoud i use a b16 head or a gsr head?
also is this a risky build? does the block need to be built to be reliable??
any advice would be nice!

pm c_rock77 he'll be more than happy to help with your situation.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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Which ever head you choose use the longer GSR head bolts or ARP studs, I'm having to repair 3 head bolt threads that started to pull out of the B20 block. (using b16 head bolts)

After 12K miles I started noticing the engine would run hot and a lot of coolant being push back into the overflow.

Good Luck
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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kinda off topic but i hate when i c this .... its vtec .. not v-tech
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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vtech They make great phones. My son has a toy phone made by vtech.

OP, for your own sake read the FAQ's and simply browse. Browse for a couple of months even, before you make a post.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by thatkidfishvr4
when building the b20 vtech shoud i use a b16 head or a gsr head?
also is this a risky build? does the block need to be built to be reliable??
any advice would be nice!
People can talk for days about all the different things that can contribute to a reliable motor and what head to use.... There are a TON of factors.

I am building my second B20 vtec.( Sold my first one in the car) When asking questions like you asked you will get a lot of opinions, some facts and **** off people because there are multiple posts that will come up if you just type in your question. https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-crx-ef-civic-1988-1991-3/ls-b20-2545202/

There is good in both heads and either way you cant go wrong. They are so close to one another it really depends on how serious a build you are making.

As far as the build being risky... IMO it is no more risky then any other build. People want to go right for the gold and start hybrid swaps without getting any info or playing around with your basic LS, B16 or B18 first. Its more invoved because you are mating two different motors together.

Heres the thing... B16/GSR heads are high reving... B20 bottom ends are not! Can they be with the right amount of work... To a certain extend. When you buy any motor you should strip it down so you know what you have. The reliability depends on the parts and how you install them.

It sounds like your new to the game... MY ADVICE... play around if you have money to blow because you will learn a lot from your mistakes. If you dont have money... Take your time and read, research and ask more specific questions. Look for people who have the same motor you want to build and ask them questions. There is no easy way... Its time, practice and looking for the answers you want to find out, not looking for someone to give you all the answers. You will end of realizing that everyone has an opinion for a reason... They have had different experiences that brought them to that opinion... You need to form your own.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by hondafleet82
People can talk for days about all the different things that can contribute to a reliable motor and what head to use.... There are a TON of factors.

I am building my second B20 vtec.( Sold my first one in the car) When asking questions like you asked you will get a lot of opinions, some facts and **** off people because there are multiple posts that will come up if you just type in your question. https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2545202

There is good in both heads and either way you cant go wrong. They are so close to one another it really depends on how serious a build you are making.

As far as the build being risky... IMO it is no more risky then any other build. People want to go right for the gold and start hybrid swaps without getting any info or playing around with your basic LS, B16 or B18 first. Its more invoved because you are mating two different motors together.

Heres the thing... B16/GSR heads are high reving... B20 bottom ends are not! Can they be with the right amount of work... To a certain extend. When you buy any motor you should strip it down so you know what you have. The reliability depends on the parts and how you install them.

It sounds like your new to the game... MY ADVICE... play around if you have money to blow because you will learn a lot from your mistakes. If you dont have money... Take your time and read, research and ask more specific questions. Look for people who have the same motor you want to build and ask them questions. There is no easy way... Its time, practice and looking for the answers you want to find out, not looking for someone to give you all the answers. You will end of realizing that everyone has an opinion for a reason... They have had different experiences that brought them to that opinion... You need to form your own.
Best post ever this should be a sticky!!!

op: If you have any questions regarding what you should do and how pm me I will be glad to answer all of your questions and show you exactly where to look to get every answer you could possibly be looking for.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DC_Legacy
vtech They make great phones. My son has a toy phone made by vtech.

OP, for your own sake read the FAQ's and simply browse. Browse for a couple of months even, before you make a post.

vtech phones are ****. Seriuosly we went through 2 sets last year. Total garbage.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Combustion Contraption
your post is just as worthless. Why should he go with the b16 head over the GSR head? Enlighten us.
Still waiting for an answer.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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i chose the B16 head over the GSR because i herd it from a friend that the B16 head cracks vtackk wayyyy Louder!! B16 head ftw!!!!!!!!!
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by .Hatches.
vtech phones are ****. Seriuosly we went through 2 sets last year. Total garbage.
LOLz....I was being sarcastistic, the only thing made by vtech in my household is a toy my son has.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by HondaTom87
Best post ever this should be a sticky!!!

op: If you have any questions regarding what you should do and how pm me I will be glad to answer all of your questions and show you exactly where to look to get every answer you could possibly be looking for.
TY! We are all here for the same reasons! Show some love people. I have been noticing that Cali cats really dont like the Eastcoast??? Can this be true?
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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i chose the b16 becuase of the intake manifold options..

But its not like it used to be, you can get anything for the GSR now adays.
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by pasaunde
Which ever head you choose use the longer GSR head bolts or ARP studs, I'm having to repair 3 head bolt threads that started to pull out of the B20 block. (using b16 head bolts)

After 12K miles I started noticing the engine would run hot and a lot of coolant being push back into the overflow.

Good Luck
i think you just found my problem. thanks alot!!
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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My personal preference for an LS/B20 VTEC is the GSR head, but then I'm an LS guy, so ignore me. Especially for a stock bottom end LS/B20V, the extra compression that a GSR head yields will help.
Nobody can tell you which head is "best"...best is a subjective term for everyone and so best for you is not necessarily best for me.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by pasaunde
Which ever head you choose use the longer GSR head bolts or ARP studs, I'm having to repair 3 head bolt threads that started to pull out of the B20 block. (using b16 head bolts)

After 12K miles I started noticing the engine would run hot and a lot of coolant being push back into the overflow.

Good Luck
So if I have a b20b with a gsr head. Use the Gsr arp head bolts?
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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d16 head
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ss396rat
So if I have a b20b with a gsr head. Use the Gsr arp head bolts?
The GSR head bolts are longer, more thread engagement, less likely to have a leaky HG.

Talking with a friend who runs Honda Challenge, he says this is a common problem when running 16 head bolts on the B20Vtecs. I just replaced B16s with ARPs yesterday.
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