yayy

 

Looks nice

 

Maybe its just me but looks like the tubing could of been prepped a little better(cleaner), and the welds look on the cold side. Generally when using the tac-tac-tac method, you need to turn the heat up more than you would on a continous weld, to have the heat and penetration.

Other than that cant beat a cage for the cost of material

 

I dunno if that cage would pass track inspection with that mounting point 'box'. Why didn't he just mount the main hoop flush to the floor?

I mean the cage is pretty, and lots of it looks well thought out but I still see some major issues with it. I don't think you can double kink the forward bars either, but I'm sure somebody else will chime in with a quote from the rule book.

Just honest constructive criticism, that all.

 

Not a fan of people trying to MIG like TIG by running a series of tack welds with porous holes in the center of each tack.

 

That cage MOST LIKELY will fail a GOOD inspection. The way he welded the tubes is unacceptable.

I'd cut it out and start over honestly.

 

I think you meant to put this in the worst fabrication pics thread

 

I agree it needs to be a solid bead for maximum penetration. Otherwise the cage will break at the welds in a crash. I have seen this happen several times.

 

I agree with ^^

Design isn't TOO bad...needs work here and there, but the welds are poor

 

Holt **** dude, you entire cage is tack welded! Pull that **** out, seriously.

Oh yeah and the base boxes are terrible, as are your door bars. Tell your friend he made a good effort but needs to learn how to weld properly and than study chassis design for a while before he makes any more.

 

What happened with the dimple die? Looks like you used the wrong size....

 

.................................... TIG weld is the only way to go, for your safety if you actually race, I would go back and re-weld the cage.

 

MIG would have been fine on the cage if he actually ran a bead and didn't tack 10039393 times on there.

 

MIG is fine, but that cage seriously needs to be cut out and completely remade.

 

thats is why it took him three weeks to get it done...sorry just had to say it but good effort

 

I kinda feel bad. The OP probably thought he had some sick fab work done and came in here promoting his friend's skills/business...

 

Yeah it is too bad. Oh well, this is the next thread for this project now:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/welding-fabrication-53/cutting-out-cage-2541996/

 

/\/\haha

I know that pulse-tack thing flies in the offroad fab business, but you can't bring that into this industry and think it's ok.

 

Love the diff in opinions in these post... One looking at the show side and the other practical.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/custom-8-point-roll-cage-w-lots-pics-2542882/

 

Yeah they talk about pulse-tacking on that 4x4 show that comes on spike tv

I personally TIG weld all my cages but MIG is perfectly fine if done properly.

 

I am in the offroad fab business and this does not fly nor any industry that has respect for what they produce. I agree I kinda feel bad for the OP but I think this cage would do more harm then good in the event of a crash. you can always do a redesign grind out some of the welds and redo it it. looks as though some of it can be salvaged
good luck,
_Jason

 

I don't want to give the impression that this technique is ok in a respectable off-road shop, however I see it so much in the offroad industry, and almost never in the "tarmac" industry

 

Well.....looks like you guys covered it already. No need for my usual a$$hole comments.

<----Thinks about downward forces on that "floating" box for the main hoop. Nice dog.

 

not bad fab work; but look at those D-Bars. They will NOO WAY pass tech.

 

Just for the record guys, I don't feel bad at all. This isn't a 10 sec car, nor will it see track time on a very regular basis. I got more than I had bargained for and I'm happy with how it turned out. The fact that it doesn't meet your guys criteria does not hurt mine nor the fabricators feelings. Thanks for all your opinions, it is what makes Honda-Tech so special. Gonna go ahead and erase the thread before this turns into a pissing contest. I would however love to see some of your guys work, so we can better learn the proper way to make a roll cage.