Hey guys,

Do you guys know if I would be able to pass the BAR inspection with a OBD2a to OBD2B conversion harness? Also the ecu I have is possibly for a Canadian LS. The swap I have is from a 01 ls and its going into a 96 EK ex. Is it possible to use an ECU from the 96-98 and pass the BAR?

 

no it you cant use jumpers and it has to be the exact ecu for the engine (same year)

 

you might be able to get away with the jumper harness as long as the ecu doesn't throw a check light and works properly. a few years ago i bar'd a 2nd gen 16a w/ jdm p30 ecu into a 92 ls. he didn't check the year stamp on the head and didn't care that it wasn't a del sol vtec block (16a3?) i'd try it and change things if you have to.

 

all depends on the ref. some refs i've gone to don't even check the ecu so long as no CEL is showing. others do a thorough inspection. technically, the jumper won't pass the visual.

 

I'm subscribing for an answer as well, I just swapped a 01 B18C1 (obd2b) into my 98 Civic (obd2a)
I ended up just buying a 98 P72 ECU (obd2a) today until I can get the immobilizer on the (obd2b) ecu disabled by a member on this forum. Hopefully I can re-pin the harness to fit into the obd2b ecu so I wont have to go the jumper harness route and risk failing the visual. I'm now wishing I would of used the 01 Integra harness instead of modifying my harness.

 

buy a 96 LS USDM ecu and then tell the ref. it is a 96 ls motor

 

You are joking right?

 

worked for me when i told the ref. i had a 98 gsr when really it was a 96

 

ATTN: Everyone who is trying to get a BAR label for the swap.
I work at the smog ref and the other day as i am going to start work the Ref informed me that the rules have changed for g codes, which are engine changes.

If you have a an american engine b16a2, b16a3, b18c1, b18c5, b18a1,b18b1. It doesn't matter if you are running illegal parts.

The smog ref will only give you a label and not run it on the dyno to check if it passes smog. So if you want a sticker this is the perfect time to try and get it, you dont have to pass smog to get it. If you make and appointment and just show up you get a sticker, plain as that. Too good to be true, its not, although my boss told me it was not going to last long as they change policies often so if you want a sticker, get on it!

if i left a lot out its cause i just woke up from a nap, to if someone needs clarification PM me and ill answer, and maybe there is another ref smog tech out there who could help answer. thanks AND GET GOING!! btw did i mention its free no cost at all, thought i should mention that too.

 

dont u still have to pay $8.25 for the sticker?

 

I dont think the part you mentioned about "having ILLEGAL parts is ok" is true because I was just at the ref station a couple of days ago and some dude with a USDM VTEC H series Prelude didnt pass inspection due to a set of AEM cam gears.

 

[QUOTE=phatmitz;38038126]Hey guys,

Do you guys know if I would be able to pass the BAR inspection with a OBD2a to OBD2B conversion harness? Also the ecu I have is possibly for a Canadian LS. The swap I have is from a 01 ls and its going into a 96 EK ex. Is it possible to use an ECU from the 96-98 and pass the BAR?[/QUOTE

A conversion harness will cause the car to fail the visual inspection.
You can just use the 01 Integra harness on the LS swap into your EK and the ECU has to be the correct one for the 01 LS swap. The ref has a reference book where it shows all the different engine swaps along with the corresponding ECU. If you do things the way i mentioned, your car should pass with flying colors (AS LONG AS ITS USDM)

 

I can only speak for the rules being used in the sacramento ref station. When it was explained to me by the ref. Aslong as its not a JDM engine it will get a sticker. Any illegal parts that are noticed by the Ref will only be written down under the notes section when other smog techs look up your car on the system. You will get a sticker aslong as the engine is USDM.

No cost anymore because the Ref no longer runs the car on the dyno. So no inspection or dyno fee will be charged. I witnessed the overlooking of wrong parts first hand since i work there. This is how the rules work now, but like i said it wont last for long probably.

Although if you dont believe me right now then you should make an appointment and see what the ref does. If you get a sticker while having incorrect parts on your car then i was right.

 

Im sure that all the ref stations in CA work the same way. All the info gets sent to Sacramento then to DMV. And like i said: I was at the ref station with some dude who was getting his 'lude inspected. The car failed visual because of the cam gears. it could just be if the ref DOES NOT notice the parts he will pass it as long as the engine is usdm.

 

Well heres the thing, the rules changed on march 15. So anything before that was the old way of getting a sticker. The old way of doing things the cam gears would definately fail cause its modified timing. Although under the new rules the ONLY thing that will keep you from getting a sticker is a grey market JDM engine.

 

So JDM motors are on hold for now??

 

yeah i think there was another post on this subject...jdm engines are a no-go if i read the info right. only usdm motors.

 

has anyone bar'd their car since the new rule change?

 

I dunno, this sounds a little shady and more like a ploy to lure in hybriders to red flag their cars in the system as possible gross polluters or something to that effect, yet not let the owner know. I could be wrong, but it just sounds shady to me.

I would need a link to a REF/BAR site showing proof of this new rule and other information instead of word of mouth from one poster who only has 6 posts.

Are you kidding me? "illegal" parts will pass? that's just silly...