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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 08:53 AM
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Default I wanna know if I really need camber kits?

well I oredered some Skunk2 Pro-S coilovers and some lower control arms also. I was wondering will I need to get camber kits? I wanna roll dumped so will I need some?

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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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anyone?
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 09:11 AM
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No as long as you don't go too low you will be fine with just a good alignment...

By the way there is a rules/guideline post at the top of the forum. It states to please post more specific topic titles not just help. You will get more help if you follow the guidelines. Most people with knowledge will just get pissed and ignore you...
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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I read on here that you dont have to have camber kits. I have always been told that you have to have them but everyone says you dont. As long as you have a good alignment you should be ok. But I think it looks better to have as close to 0 camber as you can I dont like seeing camber on wheels.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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you dont need them if your not going that low but its a good thing to get i think if you have some extra money. its nice to choose what you want your camber to be.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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get them anyway. you wont regret it rather then being cheap and regretting it with worn tires over and over again.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rick_rabies
get them anyway. you wont regret it rather then being cheap and regretting it with worn tires over and over again.
Negative camber does not wear tires... Toe does...
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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Default Re: I wanna know if I really need camber kits?

thanks for all the input guys! tercel95 sorry about the title, fixed it by the way. Well by what yall have told me I am going to need to get some. Its all good though, I do plan on going pretty low.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tercel95
Negative camber does not wear tires... Toe does...
Negative camber DOES wear tires. Just not NEARLY as fast as toe. It also depends on driving habits.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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Default Re: I wanna know if I really need camber kits?

To dump the car, yes, get camber kits.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by diznikkajebus
anyone?
The ideal ride-height reduction (coil springs on struts) for ANY year CiViC is .75-1.75 inches.

This will allow your existing components to work in relative harmony with performance springs...

If you stay in the .75-1.75 inch range, you won't have to do anything else. Your CiViC will remain within factory alignment tolerances!

If you dump your Vic more than 1.75 inches, all bets are off...

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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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Default Re: I wanna know if I really need camber kits?

Originally Posted by diznikkajebus
I wanna roll dumped so will I need some?
Originally Posted by Marauder
To dump the car, yes, get camber kits.
Sorry for parsing, but I suppose it depends on the definition of "dump".

OP: How far do you plan to "dump" your Vic?
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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Personally,
I ride tokico with adj. coil-overs..
The fender edge is about 1 inch above the tire edge.. and I have pretty even wear now..
before the suspension upgrade, my driver side sagged so much, that the passenger tire had camber wear..
leveling out the suspension works in general, but I'm "lowered" and get good wear..
When I see tires go up in the wells, all I think it "cheap cut springs"
and its kind of an ugly look.. but, thats only my opinion..
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tercel95
Negative camber does not wear tires... Toe does...
they both do just toe eats them faster.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rick_rabies
get them anyway. you wont regret it rather then being cheap and regretting it with worn tires over and over again.
Originally Posted by tercel95
Negative camber does not wear tires... Toe does...
Originally Posted by jtmartin96civic
Negative camber DOES wear tires. Just not NEARLY as fast as toe. It also depends on driving habits.
I know a guy with an EG coupe who was slammed 3" with no camber kit. His tires lasted about 500 miles less than they would have lasted with perfect camber. All he did was get the toe set to 0.

So yes, camber causes some tire wear, but not as much as many of the parrots on this forum say. (Only talking about "rick_rabies" of the people I quoted. The rest roam honda-tech.)

I don't know about you, but i'd rather my tires last 500 miles less and just buy new tires a few weeks earlier than spend $200+ on a quality camber kit. Who likes driving around on low tread tires anyway?

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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by trustdestruction
parrots
lulz
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jtmartin96civic
lulz
Just making sure, you know i'm not talking about you, right?

Your info was dead on.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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Default Re: I wanna know if I really need camber kits?

Originally Posted by BlackDeuceCoupe
Sorry for parsing, but I suppose it depends on the definition of "dump".

OP: How far do you plan to "dump" your Vic?



something similar to this
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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Default Re: I wanna know if I really need camber kits?

Originally Posted by diznikkajebus


something similar to this
a little excessive... good luck driving over a crack in the ground... or driving without scraping when a flat road turns into a slight incline.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 05:44 PM
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Default Re: I wanna know if I really need camber kits?

hey that how mine is,look i have kyb's strut and coilovers plus camber kit on front cause on the back you can put washers and even out your tires but its better that you do cause youll eventually want to go lower it wont hurt
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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Default Re: I wanna know if I really need camber kits?

Get the camber kit for the front and do the washer trick on the rear, then get a four wheel alignment. Car looks better with the correct camber when lowered.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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Default Re: I wanna know if I really need camber kits?

Originally Posted by diznikkajebus


something similar to this
Clean Ej1


anyways having a camber kit is always a good idea.. you save your tires if you decide to drop it and you can adjust it for the track or circuit or whatever.. I would invest in skunk2 front and back cambers.. the only problem you will probably have is the fenders rubbing up against the tires when you correct them. I would suggest fender rollin' son!!!

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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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I don't think thats an em1, at least it doesn't have the right rear bumper cover (96-98 cover) and head lights don't look right
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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No DOHC on the side either
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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Default Re: I wanna know if I really need camber kits?

Originally Posted by Burnt Toast
I don't think thats an em1, at least it doesn't have the right rear bumper cover (96-98 cover) and head lights don't look right
ooops.. its actually an ej1
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