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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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hey guys i was wondering if any of you have done this swap and if so.... how hard is it..... is it worth it.......... do you get good power outta it............ are you impressed......... and have you dynoed to see what it makes

i want to get a swap and i have my eyes on a legit ( because i dont support theives) b16a2 out of a 2000 si coupe. its the complete swap. what will i have to do to put it in my hatchy
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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Please search. B16 swaps are as common as a cold. All of your questions, believe it or not, have been answered many, many times already.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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my friend has a BONE STOCK b16a2 in a 2000 ek hatch. i mean you cant expect much...its a torqueless 1.6. it moves for what it is. better then a stock sohc.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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You will need these parts from the Si:
-engine
-tranny
-ECU
-engine harness
-motor mounts
-driveshafts
-shift linkage

It has 160hp from the factory, and little more torque than your D16. It is a nice improvement from stock, but you need to rev the nuts off of it to go anywhere. Get a 1.8L if you want low-end.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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so what do you guys think would be a better swap. money aside lets say i have 1400. what would be better b16 or ls. b16 is vtec but ls is tourquier.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by slicksweg
what would be better b16 or ls. b16 is vtec but ls is tourquier.
Personally, I would take an LS over a B16 anyday. They're cheaper, they're still good on fuel thanks to the longer geared transmission, and it will actually FEEL like a new motor. The B16 doesn't feel much different from your D16 until VTEC engages, while the LS has a much more useable powerband for the road.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by andoxviii
Personally, I would take an LS over a B16 anyday. They're cheaper, they're still good on fuel thanks to the longer geared transmission, and it will actually FEEL like a new motor. The B16 doesn't feel much different from your D16 until VTEC engages, while the LS has a much more useable powerband for the road.
I've had both and I completely disagree. I originally swapped a B18B1 into my Civic last summer. It's a nice motor, decent power with a very linear powerband. Recently I swapped a B16A2 into my Civic and am truly amazed at the power. The shorter transmission makes the car feel as torquey as the LS engine--almost. But the power after 5500 is a completely different animal. No doubt about it, my car is much faster with the B16.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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it depends what year ur hatch is if it a 96-98 make sure u use ur stock engine harness and modify for the b16 swap if u got a 99-00 get the whole swap and it plug and play just dont want u to make the same mastake and head ache i went threw
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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the past two weeks ive been collecting the parts i need for this, and im going to start my swap on tuesday. ill post up my results afterward. i have a 96 hatch, and im changing all the wiring to the si's so i can be obd2b for BAR purposes. i noticed you're in Florida so that wont matter for you and it would be best to use your original harness. i originally wanted to go with a b18b1 but i found a good deal on the b16a2 swap. ill be sure to let you know once i have it in the car and running how it compares to the stock d16y7
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyWash1
I've had both and I completely disagree. I originally swapped a B18B1 into my Civic last summer. It's a nice motor, decent power with a very linear powerband.
So you disagree with my opinion that the LS is better in a road car (even though we both agree about its powerband) and back it up with statements about how fast your B16 is...

I respect your opinion since you've personally owned both...but it is debatable as to which engine is "faster" in a Civic chassis. I've driven both and feel that the LS takes the prize. Someone reading this may post about how the B16 is faster while another will post about how the LS is faster. The point is, everyone's opinion will be inconsistent because there are MANY other factors to take into consideration.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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So you disagree with my opinion that the LS is better in a road car (even though we both agree about its powerband) and back it up with statements about how fast your B16 is...

I respect your opinion since you've personally owned both...but it is debatable as to which engine is "faster" in a Civic chassis. I've driven both and feel that the LS takes the prize. Someone reading this may post about how the B16 is faster while another will post about how the LS is faster. The point is, everyone's opinion will be inconsistent because there are MANY other factors to take into consideration.
It's easy to think the LS is faster because of how and when it makes power. It really isn't as fast, however. Honestly, I was surprised people say the B16 feels like a SOHC down low--it doesn't.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 04:20 AM
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so what you guys think then and is itworth it to spend 800 on a 95 ls complete swap? or should i go ls vtec? ls block with full type r internals and stock b16 head with a valve job and new valve seals n guides. itll be 500(head) 300(block) and prob like 400(b16 tranny) but i hear ls-v is very unreliable? how true is that.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyWash1
It's easy to think the LS is faster because of how and when it makes power. It really isn't as fast, however. Honestly, I was surprised people say the B16 feels like a SOHC down low--it doesn't.
I agree with you man, the LS feels faster because you have a lot of low down tq and that gives you the feeling of being pushed in your seat. It gives you the illusion of going fast but if you watch the speedo your not going as fast as you feel. I have a jdm b16 in my ek coupe and it hauls *** but then again i have a bunch of goodies on it..but when i just got it, it still moved and the shorter gearing helps out a LOT! But as we all said under 4500 its slow...haha
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