00 Black EM1 with 105k miles. I just had headwork and had the valves redone by now my mechanic is telling me I need to either swap the motor with another or get a rebuild kit. I was informed that it would cost 1k for block and 700-800 for swap or 1400 in parts to rebuild and 600 for labor. I am leaning more towards rebuild rather than swap even though it is cheaper to swap. My question is
a) Since i'm rebuilding the motor should I just upgrade the internals...I'm not really looking to go fast just as fast as this car was new and be reliable
b) What type of setup would require minor tuning...I would like to have a faster car but not at the cost of constantly bringing back in to get repairs or tuning, would just something simple with minor trouble if anything
c) Is there a website where I can buy these parts for cheap...was looking at inlinefour.com so far and seemed like they had fair prices.
d) How hard is it to learn to rebuild your own motor, it seems like this could be extremely cheaper if i buy the parts and do this own my own. I finish school this summer and will have some free time and I have alternate transportation. Is there a book or such that can teach me on just how to do this for 99-00 civic Si( Dont' really want to learn about other cars but my own for now =P).

Thx for any help

 

im rebuilding a b16a2 as well.
its EXTREMELY cheaper if you rebuild it yourself.
you should upgrade your internals since it getting rebuilt. but depending on what you want, you will need different things. you also want to get the block hot tanked, bored and honed so you can start with fresh cylinder walls
either way get eagle rods. they will hold more hp
if you want to turbo, then get low compression pistons. if you want all motor, high compression.
if you go turbo, you MUST be in a strick oil change schedule.
turbo does not require much tuning
neither does all motor.

here is my thread
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/b16a2-short-block-w-spun-rod-bearing-time-rebuild-turbo-%2A%2Apics-%2A%2A-2523981/

 

thanks your link helped.

I have a question about rebuilding the motor...I just had the valves done but now my mechanic is telling me the pistons are hitting the rings? (sorry dont' that much about cars) Basically right now the car burns oil; i have to feed it more oil every 1k miles or so. My top end feels noticeably slower. My mechanic was telling me it's a bad idea to just patch the problem...Just getting new pistons and rings. He recommends that I rebulilt the whole thing or get a new motor. What exactly do I need to get in order to rebuild the motor properly. Do I need to redo the valves since I just had them replaced couple months ago? Can I just reuse the crankshaft I have now? or do I need to replace this as well...

If I get CTR Pistons with rings will I need to adjust anything else such as fuel. I was interested in the P30 pistons on www.inlinefour.com with OEM rings. with ACL Engine Bearings. For connecting rods what is the stock dimesions I need to be looking for?

What is difference between standard bore and oversize bore?

I would really just like to run the car in stock settings but if I can upgrade without the headache I guess this would be the best time.

 

I rebuilt a B16 once...and halfway through it I realized i should have just gotten a B18 lol.

I'm just saying from my personal experience....unless you're willing to drop alot more money into a B16 to make it faster with the rebuilt internals, I would go with a GSR swap for nearly the same amount you would spend rebuilding the B16

 

haha! go turbo D.

 

 

I'd love to turbo my car but no offense but it seems like an endless money pit to do it. rebuilding the engine for lower compression, actual turbo kit/components, upgrading transmission, and then there's endless tuning =(. I really have no desire to be goign fast in my car. I bought a CBR 600 last year and that's what I go nuts on. I just want to restore my car so that it'll run how it was when I bought it new in 2000. I think the car has done great being that it's 9 years old now. I'm hoping that rebuilding the engine will bring me another satisfied 9 years or until I can afford something better.

 

Shops who do rebuilds are ****in ********! They are way too expensive! Get hone, bead blast the block, polish them journals(all from machine shop)king rod, main bearings, pct's w/new rings and check all the clearances with plasti gage then torque to specs. Unseen Racer has real talk about saving money and doing it yourself.

 

if your burning oil, your piston rings are bad.
and pistons cant hit the rings because the pistons have notches where the rings are inserted.
and to rebuilt your engine properly depends on how the parts are.
lets say they are all bad.
crank journals need micro-polishing
pistons are hold a compression
rings are blown etc
you will need new: pistons, rods, main bearings, rod bearing, crank will need to be micro-polished, cylinders will need to be honed and block will need to be hot tanked.
but if your car is just burning oil, then you will only need new piston rings.
im selling a set of P30 pistons with rods. but 1 rod is kinda bent a little. but you can upgrade to eagle rods and use the same pistons
http://www.hondamarketplace.com/show....php?t=2519633

 

so I don't have to touch the head such as valves right, or would it be a good idea to do this as well since the motor is being taken out?


Also what exactly do I need to run p30 pistons and what type or rods do I get .... dimension-wise that will.

Is it hard to micro polish and hone and hot tank a block yourself or is this something that needs to be taken to a machine shop for

Do I have do anything additionally to make sure this runs right.. like get a fuel pressure regulater

 

If I were in your situation, I would take the block to a machine shop and ask them to check the walls out and see how bad they are. (they'll check taper, out of round, scoring etc...) If you can cut out your mechanic/shop you'll save alot of money doing more of the work yourself. And if your saying you have to add that much oil it sounds like you'll most likely have to have the block honed/bored and go with like the P30, .25 over pistons if thats what you want. New rings and you should be fine. Have the machine shop check main and rod bearings as well. So you may need new bearings and some seals.

Or, do like others have said and get a B18 bottom end and go with that!

 

theres million of parts to rebuild with

 

you need to take it to a shop to get your crank micro-polished(if needed) as well as to hot tank, bore and hone.

if your head was just done, then remove it and leave it alone until re-installation
and you do not need to get any additional stuff unless you want to or if it is needed.

if you want to run p30 pistons (i am assuming stock ones from 99-00Si) then you will just need to get the block hot tanked. but i opt that you get .25 or .5mm over size since you can start with fresh walls