i have posted here before about what to do to make power, before it was deciding weather to keep my single or swap, and i have decided to swap. I want to build a motor while it is outside the car for two reasons:
1. its outside the car making it easy to work on while i still have my d inside
2. i want to learn the insides of honda motors, and why not start now

PLEASE dont tell me to take it to a pro or just get a gsr swap ect, i want to do this for the experience

I know i am probably going to start with an ls motor because i have one near me that is in good shape and came out of a car that was driven by an old lady, an old rich lady who took good care of it. i just cant decide weather to go lsv or built ls. this thread gave me the idea for a built ls:
http://hondaswap.com/general-tech-ar...monster-31401/
(sorry its not ht mods! please don't delete thread!)

people have told me that lsv is unreliable and not a good dd motor, is this true? i would like to hear what lsv drivers think about this.

also, is it reasonable to think that i can do this with no previous experience inside a motor if i use a manual as reference and ht as resources?

thanks for any help in my decision!

 

Bless those little old lady's and their knack for keeping cars well above bluebook value, lol...

I'd say the Frankenstein is a pretty straight forward build now aday's, as long as you read up on certain preparations and dont just slap the head on and call it a day.

I see no reason for unreliability as long as you have a good head on your shoulders, heed good advice, have the right tools, and dont cut corners.

 

which is more budget to power ratio friendly, cause im 17 and only have so much loot...

 

The LS will definitely be easier on your wallet. However, you could swap out the stock LS pistons with something to net you higher compression. Then when you have the money, slap on a VTEC head. You could build this in steps and have it in the car. A head swap is pretty damn easy in the car.

If you have a bit more cash, you can build the LS VTEC. But after building my LS-V, I wish I had gone with the B20 block. RO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT. The extra 200cc makes one helluva difference. Something to think about.

 

Since money is tight I would definitely go with an LS build.

A motor's reliability(LS,LSvtec,etc) is proportional to the builder's time and effort put into it.

 

hmmmm, it is a good point, maybe i could focus on the bottom end around some p30 pistons (like suggested in the posted article) and do a head swap later. b20 is definitely the better option, but they seem to be more expensive due to higher demand. what would be the best way to track down a b20 in good condition without paying enormous shipping charges to get it (im on the east coast, so no cali engines)

 

Allmotor ls ftmfw

 

what he said...
i dont feel like dealing with turbo lag, reliability issues, and the chance of becoming a boost ***** and turning up the boost too much.
too much boost = boom

 

RO K, LOL .....Same here on the added displacement.

 

lsv, My choice with out even reading the thread

 

does anyone here drive lsv? what do they compare to (what do you keep up with, gsr? b16?)
i like the idea of b20, always have but they are not easy to find. anyone know of a b20, even just a shortblock on the east coast?

 

Ls-v built right is a formidable opponent

 

I recall seeing them for ~ $600+shipping at www.hmotorsonline.com, but Im sure you could find a decent block or short block in the market place. Just keep your eye out.

I have an LS/V w/ITR tranny, and its funner then my previous LS, but thats a given. As far as keeping up with other models/makes I couldnt tell ya, havent had a chance to get to a track yet but I'm sure its nothing spectacular with 160whp currently.

It's just something I built for fun to keep my sanity after marriage with kids.

 

bookmarked!!

hahahahahahaha thats a good way to keep sane!

 

Dude. $600 for a B20?

No no no... $395 man.

Go here http://www.tigerjapanese.com/index.p...emart&Itemid=1

I got my B20 from these guys 3 years ago and dropped it in my civic with an LS tranny and an LS IM. Lots of torque.

Buy a B20, tear it down, throw in some RS machines 84mm pistons (which you can get for $200 or less, shipped) and ARP bolts. Button it back up. When you have the cash, throw on the VTEC head and an oil line kit. Then even further down the road, with tuning, valve train work and cams... 210 WHP is an easy achievement.

DONE.

 

dude, including shipping its almost 500, so i wasnt that off. also i just found a ls motor with a CLEAN *** head for 200 that is literaly a 3 minute drive from my house. believe me i would LOOOOOVE a b20 but it is just not as cost effective/convinient as an ls. honda day is coming up and i might just save up and see what i find there.
thanks for the suggestion though, im gonna save the website just incase

 

ps, i just checked out rs machines and i like them! bookmarked

 

props on building young too. im 18 and im broke as a joke. but yeah as far as ls or lsv...to make power out of a straight ls is gonna be some coin, there are better cam options for vtec motors, also making it easier. dont get me wrong it is completely possible to build an ls. go with these guys and buy some p30 pistons some arp studs. and then with more coin get a gsr or b16 head. just go bit by bit.

 

thats exactly what im gonna do. damn, i wish you could reuse pistons. the block that i bought had pr3's in it already and with a thin head gasket you can get like 11.6:1 comp.
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if the bottom end is in good shape with pr3 pistons would it be fine to put a vtec head on it with a golden eagle kit and a decked and milled block and head?? or is it necessary to rebuild the bottom end when going lsv