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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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is there any difference between the CTR and the ITR trannies? i know the JDM 98+ has the lower ring gear and GSR 4-5th but all of the others appear to be the same as the CTR. i'm looking at one CTR trans with R4 LSD stamped on it. from what i can find it's the same thing as the USDM and 96-97 JDM ITR trans. am i right?

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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Default Re: any difference between CTR and ITR trannies?

Yes, same gearing as non-98 spec ITR tranny.
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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Default Re: any difference between CTR and ITR trannies?

I read somewhere that only the ITR tranny has dual syncros along all gears? Someone confirm/refute!
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 05:11 AM
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Default Re: any difference between CTR and ITR trannies?

Nah, all B series VTEC trannies that I have opened up have the dual cone synchros on 2nd: SiR, SiR-G, CTR and ITR.
From left to right:
ITR tranny and diff, CTR tranny? and diff and SiR Tranny and diff.

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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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Default Re: any difference between CTR and ITR trannies?

The EK9 CTR transmission has a helical LSD like the ITR.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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Default Re: any difference between CTR and ITR trannies?

Originally Posted by Dogginator
The EK9 CTR transmission has a helical LSD like the ITR.
i was under this impression as well but one wonders which tranny the above poster has if he's torn it open and found a clutch lsd. was there a mid year change?

i was about to buy a ctr trans of unknown mileage for 800, almost did and then found a new in the honda crate USDM ITR tranny for 1300, to me it was worth the extra 500 for a new piece.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Default Re: any difference between CTR and ITR trannies?

I installed a CTR helical LSD in my GSR transmission. Same p/n as the ITR. All of the synchros are the same as well.

I do not know what transmission Clerique has. I'd be looking at that clutch LSD to see who made it.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Default Re: any difference between CTR and ITR trannies?

I don't recall Honda having offered a clutch-type lsd in any factory B trans; just viscous and gear types. Sometimes imported drivetrains include aftermarket parts (especially if sourced from stolen cars).
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Default Re: any difference between CTR and ITR trannies?

My CTR transmission came with a clutch-type LSD.
It's a KAAZ Option after reading up a little on it.
(mine is a 97 spec CTR)
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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Default Re: any difference between CTR and ITR trannies?

You guys might be right. All documentation and research says that the EK9 has the same LSD as the DC2 (R). But the tranny I put up came from a friend's EK9. There was some unusual silver paint over spray on the casing although his car is Championship White.
The Tranny is a S4C and EK4 SiR's have the same code and come in silver. And that LSD is the same as the Integra SiR-G LSD. I think my friend got conned.

My apologies for misinformation.
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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Default Re: any difference between CTR and ITR trannies?

no problem, i thought the ctr case had R4 LSD in black and s4c on the tag as well.
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