Hey i got a 06 type S with just a AEM short ram and my future mods will include and limited to just a
shorty header and maybe a high flow cat
and cat-back exhuast
torqe damper
motor mounts.
walbro 255lph fuel pump
Hondata heatshield gasket
lighten fly wheel upgraded clutch

so for just a slight ecu mod for those simple bolt on which is best
APEXI SAFC NEO or Hondata ReFlash?

 

if you got a review for anything i have in my to get list or recommendation i would appreciated. thanks

 

desnt work for our car aka k-series motor....reflash is ok but if you wanna tune your car save and get k-pro

 

what is it with ppl never reading up on stuff lol... Hondata reflash or save and get the KPRO... no other ecu mod is better then Hondata! Also most others don't even work for Ks!!!

 

not true. even in the book for the afc neo thing it has a section for the k20a3. some turned theyy car with one on a dyno and got 9 whp from one and he also had a wide band. he was on a budget but its is too compatible

 

really, afc 9whp. thats not bad. since i can get it off my friend for free.


Buttt, i just wanted to add about the reflash.. Yes everyone prefer Kpro. But ill give you my 2 cents.. One of my friend had a reflash before going Kpro later with built k24. Started out with the reflash cause there more affordable and easier to come by. Dont sleep on that. not sure which type but it made a huge difference with just i/h/exhaust. he ran 13.9's all day on the track as opposed to what? 14.5.

and later if you want to get kpro you can use that ECU caused its been chipped. not sure if i used the corrrect term.

also buy my rear camber kti if you need it. Postd in the forsale section. haha

 

It's easy to say save and get Kpro...but for someone who is doing a light build just to make the car a little more fun to drive this isn't a very sensible decision... The reflash would be your best option in this situation as long as you really plan to stop with those mods and you realize what your budget and goals are.

 

Damn....h8ted must of been typing while I was looking up info for the E-manage...lol

 

yeah man if its free go for it just dont burn a hole there ur piston running it way to lean lol jk. i dont understand why eveyone says afc wont work on k series they dont seach it up enough to know. no doubt tho kpro is ****ing awesome if you turboing the bitch. lol but good luck man with whatever you do make her run like a champ

 

yeah i had my 500+ awhp with a STI and a EVO so iam just being senible and do light none turbo work. longer life for everything and still good MPG....lol seriously tho.
is it all possible to do a hondata reflash and use a AFC to for minor tweaks..... say for the header and a high flow cat. i eventually want to do cams can the afc with a reflash handle it. and your right tyte-S k-pro is great iam sure but just for minor gains it's not good for the cost to mod gain.

 

KPRO is not only for turbo... most use KPRO and are N/A!

Either way you will be wasting your time as for the AFC you really need to either 1 no what you are doing or 2 have it tuned on a dyno!

Anyways this subject has been covered a million times and some don't understand that AFC wasn't designed to work with the Kseries! Honda changed everything around when they built the K... The Bs and the Ds where similar in design... I don't know how much you guys want to stress about it but I have never seen someone gain any power with the AFC!

Do you know how long it took Hondata to figure out how the Kseries ECU worked??? Do you know how long it took them to just get the reflash and KPRO out??? Long enough!!! Why do you think the AFC was never popular for our cars??? Its because they weren't made to run with our cars... there was not r&d put into it! Why do you think ppl use either a reflash or KPRO???

You guys clain 9whp gains... where are the charts to proove it???

 

if your going to get cams then forsure your gonna need kpro man no doubt about that its gonna help you the most. damn i wish i had a 500whp monster my friend has a ek hatch that does that lol

 

Well said. Whoopty for 8hp. I made 16whp with my k-pro from a street tune then dyno. I can't emphasize enough the importance of a good tune. The AFC just missleads the ecu with map sensor readings. K-pro does EVERYTHING and does it right

 

ok well i mess be going crazy becuase this guy did it.


http://www.importtuner.com/tech/powe.../photo_08.html

 

wow math is really not for you!!!!! You guys were saying that ppl were gaining 9whp... I went to go check and he only gained 5 whp! Pretty pathetic when your intake and exhaust did most of that 14 whp gain!

 

ok but hes getting the afc for free so it wont cost him a penny.

 

you know he has a k20z1 right? Does that afc thing work on k20z1 or just k20a3?

 

if your talking about a dc5 yup it has it there i looked in the manuel but it says k20a so im not too sure

 

I still wudnt get it free or not. I dont think it will respond as well as the reflash or kpro!! Hondata has r&d behind there product which makes think they know what they arr doing. Especially since it so widely known and used!!

 

nahh nahh, i was joking bout the apexi neo, I wouldnt waste my time. I dont fawk with wiring and i'll have to pay some rip off shop even with discount to get it installed and tune. But it does look nice

For that much spent, ending up spending the same amount of gettin reflash. Money is soo tight this past few months, I could care less bout hooking up my rsex. unless im econimcally benifitting while buyin crap, like I could have gotten my hands on reflash round my way for $350.

 

Also dude, if you havent bought the Apexi Neo, and you find that its wat you want, hit me up. ill break ya *** a good deal.

 

can the hondata reflash handle a race header?

 

don't know but reflash is better than nothing

 

Yes it can you just have to mention to in the form that you get what you have as a setup on your car (engine wise duh!!!)

The reflash is good for I/RH/E and minor little things but not something like cams and stuff...

 

I/RH/E is basically going to be his set up. Might as well scrap the fuel pump too. Not going to really do you ant good with your set up. With what you said you have planned, budget wise, I would get the Reflash, if pockets are deep, there is no reason not to go with the Kpro.