ok need help i have 99 coupe wit a b16, got it started by jumping it drove around a lil then died had some1 jump it again but didnt get far tryed once more this time nothing it wont start turn the key&get lots/rapid clicking sound is it just the battery?

the advice part is that when it is running theres lots on knocking in the motor&check engine lights on autozone said its wired bad or somin cuz they cant read anything so wanted to know would i spend more at a shop having them fix the motor&wiring then just having them do a full new swap like ls or b20? then later ill just put the b16 head on.. or about how about much is a full single cam swap by a shop dont have much to spend?

 

gat a new altinator and battery

 

sorry get a new battery and altinator..

 

see if you can get your battery charged before you replace it. Also, pull the alternator out and take it to autozone and have them run a load test on it to see if it is bad before you replace it.

Knocking is not a symptom of a bad battery or alternator. It sounds like you might have something more serious going on with the motor. I would start with the battery, then see if you can run a CEL diagnostic to see what type of codes you're getting and go from there.

Have you set the timing yet?

Don't just start replacing stuff because you think it might be bad. You have to diagnose things first to make sure it is actually faulty.

 

x2.

Never throw parts at a car.. you'll end up spending and wasting a lot of money

Test the battery and have the alternator tested and go from there.

 

changed out the battery, altinator was fine i can get start it. now its just the knocking that sounds scary as shizz friend said it could be somin wit the valves messed up its the same sound he had wit his b4, so would it be cheaper 2have a shop fix it or just get like a b20 or ls long block just need my pice of crap running

 

It is not a piece of crap. It is just a motor that needs a little TLC, that's all. Do not, I repeat, do not replace your motor or pay a shop to replace it until you know what the problem is!

Loud knocking like that can be caused by several things. Obviously it is hard to start and it runs like crap. This sounds like a timing issue. Follow these steps, then get back to us and let us know what happened.

1. Set the timing
2. Run a leakdown and compression test
3. Check the ECU trouble code like I told you before. that will tell you a lot more than just what is going on with the timing.
4. Forget about that damn B20! You don't need it! LOL, the swap will be more trouble than it is worth. Just stick with your B16 and fix it.

Did you recently purchase this car, or did it just start doing this recently?

 

well what will a new block fix if you have a problem with the head??????

 

C'mon bro, give the guy a break. He probably doesn't even know how a head works. He is just trying to save some dough and at the same time try to make more power. Unfortunately, he just needs to forget about that B20 and the LS. It will be more trouble than it is worth and it will certainly not fix his problem.

 

when i 1st got it about a month&a half ago it ran ok ok not perfect normaly how i would like it but yeah my po took the keys away from me the day after lol just got it back the other day then i had these problems. i know u guys are right should just be throwing money at it that im already low on just been kinda in a rush gotta get 2work skool ect...
but yeah ill give it some TLC later 2day. about pulling codes will i be able2 get them paper clip way even tho autozone couldnt pull anything??

 

just take it back to auto zone. They weren't able to pull the codes because your battery was probably transmitting intermittent current which may have been preventing the code reader from functioning properly.

Just follow the steps I gave you. I am almost certain it is just the timing...

 

so i did this here http://www.team-integra.net/sections...p?ArticleID=34 "my black&brown wire werent connected to Anything" but still pulled codes i got 6.Coolent Temperature (car just sit in the garage) & 7.Throttle Angle BUT then i dont think those codes are the same for mine... Sigh, the car has a b16a si motor, some high cp pistions(i only 91)& a obd2b PCT-J11 (JDM CTR) lol is this why they cant pull codes? so im getting a quick 6flashs & quick 7flashs. but yeah ima still check time in a bit.

 

Problems with the ECT and TPS sensors would make the engine run poorly. Now clear those codes from the ECU (remove 7.5A BACKUP fuse for 1 minute) and run the engine to see whether the CEL turns ON again and whether the same codes become stored in the ECU. You only want to troubleshoot CEL codes that repeat.

 

They are the same codes.

what does this mean?

You already pulled the codes. Why do you think you can't pull them?

Just curious, why are you running a CTR ecu? Why didn't you just keep the stock Si ecu?

 

when i bought it off my friend he wanted to keep it i said fine. i had a full CTR swap just took it from there so i wouldnt have to buy one & when i sold that swap i sold it with the hondata s300.... but i was just kinda getting at that its been well taken care of even when my friend owned it kept routine maintenance now i just dont know why this is happening to me lol

 

another one of my noob questions how do i set the timing how your talking about? i took out the ctr intake camshaft today put the stock one in made sure cams & everything was top dead center..

 

You should probably part out the car and sell me your ctr cams..... lol jokin... Sometimes people take a short video of the car running poorly upload it to youtube and post a link here and it really helps the expert guys diagnose a potential problem... just an idea you could try.

 

put in your thread "video" and people will be all over it.... honda tech guys love posts with videos or pictures.....

 

i would love to help, but i have trouble reading his posts. maybe i'm just too many beers deep.

 

setting the timing is relatively simple in my opinion. I'm not going to give you step by step instructions for 2 reasons:

1. You should have a Helms, Haynes, Chilton, or some other type of repair manual for your car. They are like $20 from autozone

2. When I did a search on Google for "how to set honda timing" I got 192,000 hits.

So there ya go.

One last comment, since you didn't explain what you meant by high CP pistons (i only 91), I'm going to assume you meant that you are running high compression pistons on 91 octane fuel. Three things might be happening:

1. Depending on how high the compression ratio is, it might be detonation due to the relatively low octane rating of the fuel you are using.

2. the compression ratio might be low enough to run on 91 octane, but high enough to cause your valves to smash into your pistons (especially if the timing is off)

3. Your cam profile may not be compatible with your pistons for the reason stated in #2.

In any case, WTF are you doing swapping out cams, and starting up the engine if you don't know how to set the timing? Do you at least know how to set the thing to TDC?

Trust me, I want to help you, but you are going to have to help me by using a little common sense here...

 

ok ok im really sorry u had to put up wit my noobness lol, but the time was off had my friend pull off the head intake valves had it the worse so just gave up on it he sold me his b20 cheap cuz he owes me, its still new on crate from hmo just need to go find a ecu for it

 

Why put yourself through all that work?

 

I agree, you will get more power but its such a hassel

 

Umm, no. He will have less power.

 

if its a built b20 then he'll have more