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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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I decided to bring this thread here as well. I would love for some criticism, constructional of course. if anyone has any. The outside of my car is a loooooong story. What matters for now, is that the car looks like this:



If you want to see the whole story about what happen before now, check out an old thread:
http://www.civicforums.com/forums/46...s-56k-wrn.html

Right now, I'm working on the front bumper. After that's done, I'll get the door handles shaved, get some 2k sprayed, block it down and hopefully after all of that, seal it up and paint it. Check out what I've done so far on the front bumper.

Finally got goin on a couple of things.

Check out a couple of pictures of my latest "screwing's around"

Finally got some supplies badly needed.



Also got a set of autoloc's shaved door kit. Will be putting these in this weekend. I'll be hooking it up to the matrix alarm, and getting it workin. Actual shaving of door will happen after I get everything done and ready for more primer.



Finally got a couple quarts of some 2k urethane, from kustom shop. Hm, I have no idea what that is sitting in front of teh primer.



TC sportline CF mirrors.





Here's what I started doing, you can see in this older picture that the front bumper got damaged a while ago. I hit a damn plastic laundry basket on the freeway. Laundry basket! wtf?


And then in this one, you can see that I started fiberglassing. I cut out all of the cracked area, and glassed on a couple layers and bridged it shut.

It's been raining alot lately, preventing me from getting anything done. That's ok though, ain't nothin I can't fix with a space heater! woot!




(couple days later)

There was finally a break in the weather today, which is good, since I don't work on weekends. I was able to get a lot done today.

A couple days ago I sanded out all the old paint and ****. Thank god that's over with.

I also layed some fiberglass into the edges where the bumper is closest to the wheel well. Didn't snap any pics, I will when I work on it a bit more.

Sanded everything and fiberglass.



that opening on the right, all of the inside of the flap had a ton of old paint on it, was a pain to get it out. Finally done:



Got some filler on there:



Some more filler on the front:



And sanded the top part, that's as far as I got before it started to rain again:



So then the next steps would be to finish the front part, fiberglass and sand more the outer edges. Then the next thing would be to prop it up in front of the car and attach the upper part, use some expanding foam, sculpt away and then glass and smooth that.

If I can get the bumper 100 percent finished, then I can get the door handles shaved, and the whole car 2kd. Slowly but surely. I want to try and get this exterior project finished by august. It sounds far away, but I'm sure it'll be here sooner then we know it.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 04:32 AM
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On that front bumper crack. I would have glassed it on the back side and made your life a whole lot easier. Also make sure that you shave the door handles the right way. There has to be a metal filler plate made. If you need any advice hit me up bro
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 06:04 AM
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^^^ Good Advice....LOL need to fiberglass the back makes it easier down the road plus smaller chance of it craking or getting damaged then if fiberglassed the front on the bumper.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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It's actually hard to see from the pictures, but I did actually glass it from the back. I saturated three pieces, stacked two of them together, slapped it on the back side (after properly preparing the surface on the backside) then when it started to gel, I put more on the top side, and a bit more resin. Like this:


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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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On that front bumper crack. I would have glassed it on the back side and made your life a whole lot easier. Also make sure that you shave the door handles the right way. There has to be a metal filler plate made. If you need any advice hit me up bro
I'm going to be taking the doors to someone to get shaved. I don't know how to weld. Im sure I could learn easy, but don't actually have a garage to work in and stuff. Anyway, The thought crossed my mind to make a fiberglass piece to fit in there, but I just ended up thinking that was as dumb idea.

word, yeah Ill hit ya up if I run into any trouble. Thanks
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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just remember that on the door shaving idea. Dif materials expand and contract at dif rates. Welding in plates will be the best in the long run. Then all you need is a skim coat of filler to blend it all in
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Eyger
It's actually hard to see from the pictures, but I did actually glass it from the back. I saturated three pieces, stacked two of them together, slapped it on the back side (after properly preparing the surface on the backside) then when it started to gel, I put more on the top side, and a bit more resin. Like this:


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I would have V'd out the cracked area on the top of the bumper and just layed mat on the inside. Then used some duraglass on the top (V'd area) This eliminates all that sanding you did. When you built up the top all you did was make a bump that you had to sand back down. Doing my suggestion would make for an extremely strong and easy repair. But non the less you ended up with a strong fix.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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^the V grove is a good thing to do...i just hate trying to fix fiberglass the stuff is gonna crack and break again. If i was you i woulda ran a kind of supprt bar along the bottom and just glassed it in to give it a lil extra strength.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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just remember that on the door shaving idea. Dif materials expand and contract at dif rates. Welding in plates will be the best in the long run. Then all you need is a skim coat of filler to blend it all in
Ok, thanks for the tip. My plan was to bring it to the guy to do the weld and grind the welds smooth. Then get it back, z-grip it and glaze if necessary. But then again, I don't have an enclosed area for protection of rust. Maybe I''ll just have him do the whole thing and then 2k the whole for me as well.

Originally Posted by precisionsc54
I would have V'd out the cracked area on the top of the bumper and just layed mat on the inside. Then used some duraglass on the top (V'd area) This eliminates all that sanding you did. When you built up the top all you did was make a bump that you had to sand back down. Doing my suggestion would make for an extremely strong and easy repair. But non the less you ended up with a strong fix.
That's not a bad idea. Come to think of it, I do have some kitty hair sitting around here somewhere. I've had it for a while though, I wonder if it's still good.

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^the V grove is a good thing to do...i just hate trying to fix fiberglass the stuff is gonna crack and break again. If i was you i woulda ran a kind of supprt bar along the bottom and just glassed it in to give it a lil extra strength.
That's also not a bad idea at all. And it's not too late to do it. I might do this. Also too though, I ran this bumper for a long time without any crack problem, scraped the bottom a couple of times. I don't think I need it. Also too, where I live right now, it's kinda nice, there's street parking almost everywhere, so I don't have to worry about going in and out of driveway inclines.
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Alright, well, I finally got some more work done on this thang... I haven't had a chance, the weather's been rainy, and then my father came into town for the weekend, so I couldn't do anything during that time.

Finally finished sanding the middle/front area:


This is what the sides looked like after I cut out all of the junk fiberglass.
The short story about this front bumper is that it's a front bumper for an RSX, and I liked the style, so I bought it. The sides had these gay vents in them, and the bumper was too long (depth-wise) so I just hacked it up and filled in the vent area.



I used the same fiberglass method as the middle part I made, then used filler:



This is what the other side looked like, (this one is worse, so it's one phase behind the opposite side.
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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Can't wait to see it painted. Looks like you've put in some good work man.
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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^Yeah, it's sweet, with the exception of my father coming into town, my plan is to work on it every day.

More:
Sanded:



Second coat of filler:



Sanded, almost completed:



Just a bit more to fill a small low spot:



There are still some gaps I have to take care of. Will continue tomorrow.

Oh wait a sec, I'll be getting off of work tomorrow at 2 pm, so I should be able to get a lot more done. (If the weather stays nice.)
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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Can't wait to see it painted. Looks like you've put in some good work man.
Thanks, I can't wait either! I estimate I'm about.....30 percent done with the front bumper, after the front bumper is done, 60 percent done the car.

I'm getting there.
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:59 PM
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Found some long lost pictures:
This is what it looked like back in September of 07, the main goal of re-doing it all, is to get better body work, better paint application and some things like shaved handles.





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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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Nice. Keep the posts coming.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Got some more done:

On these rear panel type things, i had to cut it out around the edges because the original bumper was too long (depthwise) So I sliced it up and fiberglassed the crap out of it. And of course, it was a bad job. So here's me re-doing it the right way, I sanded it all down inside and out, glassed it from the inside:



Then coated with with filler:



Other side:



Then slapped mud on there:



I know it looks like a lot, but I'm going to end up sanding most of it away, to get that smooth finish.

I also took some time off to put a new set of wheels on my buddys 350:




Posting this kind make me want to go out there and sand some more. I think I will.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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body work not looking to bad there. good ups man.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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More sanded:


second coat:


more sanded other side:


Second coat other side:


If it dries in time, then I'll sand some more.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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Sanded the second time around, looks like i'm going to have to do a third to fill in some small areas. Body work is an art in itself, sculpting each curve.

The left side has a small indentation that needs to shape out, and around the corner there is a low spot.


The other side is almost 100%, I just have to define these curves better, ever so slightly.


As soon as this is done...the fun begins, I get to spray foam, sculpt foam, and then lay a ton of fiberglass... then mold mold mold.... I'm actually looking forward to this, because it's going to be a challenge.
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rice pwnage
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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^I don't understand what you're trying to say. If you're trying to insult me, then know that I don't care what you think. Have a great day!
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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had to remove some bad fiberglass which went on top of a poorly prepared surface. sanded and filled:


I ****ING HATE PEOPLE. that swing their doors open without consideration. some ***ot jackass dented my rear quarter panel. it's less then dime size, so it's not bad, but, ****!
sanded and filled:
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Work looks good so far.
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^I don't understand what you're trying to say. If you're trying to insult me, then know that I don't care what you think. Have a great day!
not insulting you, its your car not fan of body kits but great job on body work man its helping me on sanding down my car as well im not hating
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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not insulting you, its your car not fan of body kits but great job on body work man its helping me on sanding down my car as well im not hating
Ok, great. Thanks for your support! If you need any tips on sanding, lemme know.


Sanded smooth:


primer: It's still wet, so you can see the reflection.


Second coat:



Just letting it sit like that for now, to protect from it from the weather.

Well, looks like the lower portion of the front bumper is 99.5% done, there's one teeny tiny air hole I filled, waiting until tomorrow to sand it. After that I'm going to have to wait a bit to get some more money then get the expanding foam, and appropriate materials to fabricate the rest of it.
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