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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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So I never really saw myself taking things this far but I want to do something. I've got a b16 and I am looking to do some upgrades. There are so many different options and set ups I can go with and I'm curious on what some people know what works well.

1. Good bottom end set ups? my buddy has a bare b20 siting around, What kind of work would be required in using this.

2.Do I have to do headwork as well? I was thinking BC3's. Heard those work well.

3. Any other advice on things to buy would help. looking for a solid street build.
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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Check out the dyno thread stickied at the top of this forum. Your questions are all too vague for anyone to really help you.
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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I'll check it out. If anyone else can chime in with some helpful info feel free.
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Combustion Contraption
Check out the dyno thread stickied at the top of this forum. Your questions are all too vague for anyone to really help you.
x2 there are enough threads on here and the www about the multitudes of ways to build B series engines.

I don't think there is any need for spoon feeding but if you feel the need, here is a list for you to research. You never said OEM or Aftermarket so I will assume money is not an option.

BC3's on the street, you might as well go with Bisi Level X cams
Race Ported head
Completely upgraded valve train (so you can keep VTEC up to 10k RPM)
95mm Forged Crank.
Darton M.I.D. Sleeves
Titanium Rods and
Arias 88mm 15:1 CR pistons complete with all the race coatings and you'll be set.
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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x2 there are enough threads on here and the www about the multitudes of ways to build B series engines.

I don't think there is any need for spoon feeding but if you feel the need, here is a list for you to research. You never said OEM or Aftermarket so I will assume money is not an option.

BC3's on the street, you might as well go with Bisi Level X cams
Race Ported head
Completely upgraded valve train (so you can keep VTEC up to 10k RPM)
95mm Forged Crank.
Darton M.I.D. Sleeves
Titanium Rods and
Arias 88mm 15:1 CR pistons complete with all the race coatings and you'll be set.

Werd^2
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by GhostAccord
x2 there are enough threads on here and the www about the multitudes of ways to build B series engines.

I don't think there is any need for spoon feeding but if you feel the need, here is a list for you to research. You never said OEM or Aftermarket so I will assume money is not an option.

BC3's on the street, you might as well go with Bisi Level X cams
Race Ported head
Completely upgraded valve train (so you can keep VTEC up to 10k RPM)
95mm Forged Crank.
Darton M.I.D. Sleeves
Titanium Rods and
Arias 88mm 15:1 CR pistons complete with all the race coatings and you'll be set.
Yeah the only thing with this is that money is an option. Wasn't looking to port the head or sleeve the block.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Default Re: Whats the best approach here?

You really dont give us enough infor like what are your goals? whats the point of ur build street and strip? or just street? whats ur budget? we could help you out more if these were covered.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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Yeah the only thing with this is that money is an option. Wasn't looking to port the head or sleeve the block.
How was anyone to know this unless you stated it? Thats what I meant about your first post being too vague. State budget, what you have to work with already and goal, and people can actually help.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Combustion Contraption
How was anyone to know this unless you stated it? Thats what I meant about your first post being too vague. State budget, what you have to work with already and goal, and people can actually help.
Alright then heres some more info.
-budget about 2500 bucks
-street car
-not looking to boost
-i have a b16 with all the basic ****. (I/H/E, clutch, flywheel)
-goal anything over 180whp (assuming i use the b20/any other blocks)

Like i said before, my buddy has a bare b20 block sittin around and i'm curious if its worth making a move on. What would I need to make it work?

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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 06:49 AM
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 07:20 AM
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Sounds like it's your first engine build. I'd learn as you go, start with smaller upgrades rather than jumping into building an engine that honda-tech suggests. Otherwise you'll end up with an engine you don't know anything about.

Don' be in a hurry to make a ton of power - the best kind of engine performance comes from knowledge, experience, and tuning, not the right parts. Almost any part can make comparable power.

EDIT: I should clarify - a big part of it is having the right combination of parts, but it's more important to understand why and how these parts work well together than to just purchase them and "hope for the best."

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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Unsung
Sounds like it's your first engine build. I'd learn as you go, start with smaller upgrades rather than jumping into building an engine that honda-tech suggests. Otherwise you'll end up with an engine you don't know anything about.

Don' be in a hurry to make a ton of power - the best kind of engine performance comes from knowledge, experience, and tuning, not the right parts. Almost any part can make comparable power.
word...

The only thing I do suggest is, just us an ls block.. you can find ls blocks ALL over the junkyard.. (b18a or b18b)
You should save some cash just by doing that...

try useing oem parts such as pistons bearings etc...

a mild LS/v sounds like the way you wanna go.. just research the parts for this and figure out how much it would cost and try to find bargins... used parts arent sooo bad, just make sure they are GOOD used parts... but please dont get used piston sets.. not worth it if you want to keep the motor..
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