I'm working a trade on my B20 vtec powered CRXsi and the guy has a 2002 civic si with 94k. Silver with some old rims from me.

What are the pros and cons of this car. I really want an integra so I most likely will put some decent wheels and tires and sell it.

Is there a pretty good market for this baby?

 

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bone stock ep is ugly and slow. Without the hfp kit or some kit its not that attractive. The motor doesnt make very much power id either keep your car or get a teggy.

 

You are retarded. He is aaking for pros and cons not your personal opinion. Reading>you!!!

 

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personally, i love my 2002 EP3, i graduated from a 2000 civic ex and it feels like a very solid car. I commute and so its a good mix of gas mileage and power. Also, i think its sexy

That's my opinion tho, to each his own.
Why don't you go test drive one and see if you like it?

The market is good for the car, not quite as much as say the teg or an rsx-s but its still a lot better than a lot of other cars

 

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There's a better market now than when the cars were in production.

I used to have a 2002 Civic EP3 Si and to this day I miss having got rid of it. :-(

Even right now the Civic EP3 is a modern, safe car. Crash tests and body rigidity still every bit as good in comparison with cars being made this year.

You can do a hell of a lot with them to turn them into very, very nice everyday driving cars. They're even very nice driving daily commuters if they're completely stock.

You said you wanted an Integra, but if I were you I'd consider keeping the EP3 (if it's in good shape) and turning it into your project car. They're great fun. You can approximate the performance of the 2002-2005 CTR just by dropping a cheap RSX Type S swap into the EP3, even right down to the wheels and brakes.

If I sound a little prejudiced, I guess I am. I think these cars were seriously undervalued. At the time they were brought into the US market, they had to have stickers of close to twenty grand because they all came out of the Swindon UK plant. They sold very badly because of the retail price...but I got mine for $15K because of how slow they were selling.

Now that they're no longer made, people are beginning to appreciate them.

The only serious "flaw" (if you want to call it that) is that the rear suspension will not have enough travel if you turn it into a full track car. Most people don't know this, but in North America the racing teams were allowed to reposition the pickup points for the DC5 and EP3 rear suspensions in order to get the travel they needed.

In the Japanese market, Spoon quickly abandoned their EP3 projects because they were not allowed to make the changes to turn the Spoon CTR into what they needed for it to be to win the races they were in.

But...I mean, c'mon. You're not building a race car, right?

You'll notice that in 2006 Honda changed how the front struts worked on the Civic sporty cars, reclining the struts slightly toward the driver in order to get more travel. This tends to solve the issue that you'd have with a lowered 2002-2005 EP3 that had stiff suspensions...there was relatively lower travel and you might actually blow a shock (if you didn't shake your brains out) on a rough track or a big city pot hole.

But, again, you're not building a race car and you just have to know not to lower the car too much.

 

Damn. I don't mean to sound like I know everything. I don't. :-)

 

I appreciate everyones comments. My CRX is great, but hard to drive regularly for an old man. The benefit of trading for the si or really any car that is close to stock is that there is a market for it. KBB says my car is worth $2300 and I'm asking $ 5500.00 because of my investment.

It appears that after spending quite a bit of time dealing with the guy, he has upped his deal to my car and a grand for his with no wheels. I think I'm going to keep trying to sell. Or find an integra trade.

 

I think you can take George as a great example... he has an EP3 and he got rid of it for 2 Accords and he miss the EP3 more then anything because it was fun to drive! This car is all about the driving experience its just that damn fun to drive! Yes its a little underpowered but the short geared tranny makes up for it a little... best advice go drive one and you'll see for yourself!!!

 

I think EP3s are still very attractive even without having a body kit. I actually don't like the way the wings on the Hfp kits look. And I'm not really a fan of the HFP kit in general.

Stock body EP3 lowered just under 1.5 inches.



A good looking example of a cosmetically modified EP3. Very clean and very sexy!

*not my car*



Take the EP3 for a test drive. You will enjoy the newer car comfort and little extra torque despite not being a horsepower machine. They are comfy and sporty and fun for a daily driver.

 

Thanks everyone. The car is mine now. I'll spend a month with it and decide between it and an integra.

 

Too heavy. Get something lighter.

 

fixed.........

 

pros, its cheap for a si model cuz most people hate it. has alot of after market support

cons very slow in stock form
seat theft