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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 07:56 AM
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i was wondering if anyone has good results with the blox a's and boost ive got the average setup
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shooting for around 450whp
and i need a set of cams...i sold the b16 cams and need a set...just wondering about the blox a's? any input
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 07:59 AM
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A little better than type r.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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Go for blox b's, i personally made 70+ hp over type r cams, and also have a good friend of mine who made 90+ over gsr cams.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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im scared the B's will be to big..i dont want to over do it
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 08:47 AM
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im scared the B's will be to big..i dont want to over do it
is that really possible if its not a HUGE all motor cam?

if you have stiff enough valve springs i'd go as big as still made more power than the next size down
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by spoolin turbo s

if you have stiff enough valve springs i'd go as big as still made more power than the next size down
yes i have supertech springs/retainers..just didnt want to over cam my setup

anyone have experences with how the A's and B's idle? do they have to be degreed in?
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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The B's idle just as good as stock cams, you should not be worrying about over camming your car. B's are not too big, make great power and idle great. And both i and my buddy have them set a -1 on intake side and +1 on exhaust seems to be the best settings for the cams throughout the extensive cam gear settings we tested on the dyno
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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The B's idle just as good as stock cams, you should not be worrying about over camming your car. B's are not too big, make great power and idle great. And both i and my buddy have them set a -1 on intake side and +1 on exhaust seems to be the best settings for the cams throughout the extensive cam gear settings we tested on the dyno
but it's not gonna be the same on every engine so to answer the OP question of do they have to be degree'd yes they do

anyone know what blox's are equal to which skunk cams?
because from what i've heard they are the same grinds or very similar
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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yes i have supertech springs/retainers..just didnt want to over cam my setup

anyone have experences with how the A's and B's idle? do they have to be degreed in?
jeff evans said that a minimum amount of spring pressure is needed for these cams i just don't remember the exact amount, does 100psi sound right? because thats what im thinking

100 and 60 come to mind im just not sure what the right minimum amount needed is. if i were you i would pm or email jeff and ask him, as im sure he will steer you in the right way

but i do know for some of these big skunk and blox cams need more spring pressure than any of the stock cams or it can cause bad things to happen with something messing up in the valvetrain
do you know what spring pressure your springs are?
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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They do not have to be degreed in for them to run properly at idle. Mine were set at 0-0 for almost a month before i went on the dyno. And you need right arount a 160 spring pressure, which is the lowest of the b series spring rates that supertech sells. I personally have the highest one of 266 because im revving to over 10k and have them just for mere safety purposes. And they are identical to the skunk 2 tuner series stage 2's. Same lift on all lobes both exhaust and intake.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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i have the stiffer supertech springs..85lbs seat presure?
anybody eles chime in on the A's?
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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something don't add up between the 2 of you guys spring rates.

if the b's are equal to those skunk cams thats what i would go with because the skunk ones are badass they made like 50-70 whp over gsr cams
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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He was talking about seat pressure. I'm talking about the about of pressure it takes to compress the springs. Mine are rated at 266lbs.

B's are identical to tuner 2's from skunk.

Tuner type b's have an oem primary lobe ie. Type r, gsr etc. They also make a competition type b, has the same vtec lobe on both cams as the tuner b's but has bigger primary lobes. Helping with spool time and lower end power before vtec engages
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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He was talking about seat pressure. I'm talking about the about of pressure it takes to compress the springs. Mine are rated at 266lbs.

B's are identical to tuner 2's from skunk.

Tuner type b's have an oem primary lobe ie. Type r, gsr etc. They also make a competition type b, has the same vtec lobe on both cams as the tuner b's but has bigger primary lobes. Helping with spool time and lower end power before vtec engages
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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I'm running blox type A's with boost. they work great idle like stock cams and pull nice in the top end. I'm sure the B's would get you more power but you may sacrifice idle quality? anyone know if the primary lobes between the A's and B's are the same/different?

anyway best dyno pull so far was 17psi 420whp @ 8500rpm and still climbing on my b20/vtec with a t3/t04b 57-trim.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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I'm running blox type A's with boost. they work great idle like stock cams and pull nice in the top end. I'm sure the B's would get you more power but you may sacrifice idle quality? anyone know if the primary lobes between the A's and B's are the same/different?

anyway best dyno pull so far was 17psi 420whp @ 8500rpm and still climbing on my b20/vtec with a t3/t04b 57-trim.
yea i was scared of the B's and there idle aswell...im leaning more towards the type A's i think..
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Default Re: Blox A's and boost?

the A's are fine.....they are a little more agressive than ITR cams which make them a great choice for boost.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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the A's are fine.....they are a little more agressive than ITR cams which make them a great choice for boost.
when you put them in did you set both gears to 0,0..or did they have to be degreed in to idle?
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The B's are fine. They are a excellent top end cam for boost and they idle the same as R's or Blox A's. If your tuner is any good he will dial out some of the overlap and get you even more power.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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Default Re: Blox A's and boost?

i think im gona go with the A's...i just want somthing a lil bigger then R's..i dont want anything to aggressive
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i just left them a 0 0. they idle exactly like stock. no need to mess around with the cam gears unless you want to start shifting the power band around.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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The B's are fine. They are a excellent top end cam for boost and they idle the same as R's or Blox A's. If your tuner is any good he will dial out some of the overlap and get you even more power.

Take out some of the overlap??? Have you used The Blox B's before? In all my experiences and people i know that have run blox b's have added overlap. My cams are set a -1 exhaust and +1 intake.... I recently added a victor x and bigger .82ar housing and didnt adjust the gears, but the way its looking they need more overlap
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Originally Posted by boostedeg6-1
Take out some of the overlap??? Have you used The Blox B's before? In all my experiences and people i know that have run blox b's have added overlap. My cams are set a -1 exhaust and +1 intake.... I recently added a victor x and bigger .82ar housing and didnt adjust the gears, but the way its looking they need more overlap
what is your setup that you have the B's on ?
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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what is your setup that you have the B's on ?
Sleeved 84mm gsr 9.7:1 CP pistons, b16 head supertech springs and retainers the blox b cams, victor x, 3" charge pipe, GT35r .82ar exhaust and pro series cam gears. Car made 510/350 on 19psi and 430/275 on 11psi....
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