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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 10:12 AM
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Default ultra light wheels.......how light is to light?

there is someone locally selling a set of ultralight 16" wheels that are around 10lbs each. (well he told me they are about 10lbs each)

would these be wat to light for street driving? or the lighter the better?

can anyone ID these wheels? i know their knockoffs of something but i dont know what.......




any comments on these?

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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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If you use low profile tires with light wheels they tend to bend because of road conditions, like pot holes and stuff. For example the Mugen MF8 are very light but would require high proile tires for the reason above.
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 10:24 AM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (IGGY)

If you use low profile tires with light wheels they tend to bend because of road conditions, like pot holes and stuff. For example the Mugen MF8 are very light but would require high proile tires for the reason above.
I would not be concerned about bending forged wheels like the MF-8's. I would be very concerned about bending a set of cheap "ultra light" wheels though.
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 10:25 AM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (Bob#455)

Those look like knock-offs of the Volk CE28N...
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 10:26 AM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (IGGY)

I have to disagree with IGGY here

i mean it all depends on wether the wheel is forged or cast.

If the wheel is cast then there is a point where the rim can be too light. Usually knock off wheels are cast copies of very strong forged rims. So rims like knock offs of Mugen MF-8s or MF-10s tend to bend when you hit deep pot holes and such.

However if the wheel is forged, like a Real Mugne MF-8 or MF-10 then you should have no problems. Those rims will basically not bend unless you really hit something and even then they might still be ok.

Forged Rims are extremely Strong, and therefore can be made light weight
Cast rims on the other hand are still strong, just not a strong, and when you start trying to make them incredibly light like 10LBS, then you're asking for nothing but problems

I think the lightest Cast Rims i would buy would be Kosei K-1s ... just because i trust them
Copies however i do not
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 10:26 AM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (Bob#455)

those wheels look very much like the VOLK CE28N's...
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 10:27 AM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (Bob#455)

If you use low profile tires with light wheels they tend to bend because of road conditions, like pot holes and stuff. For example the Mugen MF8 are very light but would require high proile tires for the reason above.

I would not be concerned about bending forged wheels like the MF-8's. I would be very concerned about bending a set of cheap "ultra light" wheels though.
yeah the MF-8's are some of the strongest, lightest wheels around... but honestly, i dont know anyone who has bent cheap rota's... even when they hit a curb and take flight...
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 10:38 AM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (csufweed)

they are rota's and if they are 16's they do not weigh 10lbs! stick with forged good luck, eric
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 10:42 AM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (non-VTEC)

i THINK these are made by ADR (Advanti Racing)

i'm waiting for a reply from the seller if they are fogred or cast.......
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 10:46 AM
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I`m running racing hart cp-035 forged wheels... are they okay ?
I tested them on the most difficult racetrack in the world and beat the **** out of the whole car... They did very well. No damage, strong brakes til the end.
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 10:52 AM
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I think all ADR wheels are casted. And if I remembered correctly, there was a member on this board who had his ADR wheels exploded on him while going over a pothole. So I would think twice about choosing ADR wheels.
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 10:55 AM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (ITR1858)

I have a article about a guy who has to run high profile tires on the MF8's. i will get it later.
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 11:05 AM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (IGGY)

those rims are konig heliums. they weigh 11.34 lbs in 15x6.5.
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 11:15 AM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (In7egrity)

actually, its not the lighteness of the rim that causes this.

its the fact they are, indeed, cast iron.
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 11:38 AM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (ITR1858)

I`m running racing hart cp-035 forged wheels... are they okay ?
I tested them on the most difficult racetrack in the world and beat the **** out of the whole car... They did very well. No damage, strong brakes til the end.
i suppose you ran your car at sebring, on the long course then? i cant think of any more brutal-poorly taken care of tracks i have raced on!!! eric
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 11:49 AM
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actually, its not the lighteness of the rim that causes this.

its the fact they are, indeed, cast iron.

Iron rims? Bet ya they're cast aluminum.
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 12:09 PM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (In7egrity)

they are or are just like the konig wheels, they could be rotas or some other company who gets their wheels made in the same place.

I do not believe these are bad wheels if they are infact a konig or rota wheel. If you are getting a good deal on them go ahead and buy. I dont think you are going to have any problems
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 12:10 PM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (George Knighton)

Hehe

They are definately copies of Volk CE28N's. They look damn good too
I know the Volk CE28N's are forged, not sure about those though.

Miguel
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 12:29 PM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (George Knighton)

I have seldom seen a Honda-Tech thread with this much misinformation disseminated in such a short amount of time.

Lord, have mercy.
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 12:41 PM
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actually, its not the lighteness of the rim that causes this.

its the fact they are, indeed, cast iron.


Iron rims? Bet ya they're cast aluminum.
you get the point
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 01:10 PM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (uncleben)

what type of rims are those, hell if you don't want them give them here
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 01:21 PM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (rainmanEK)

I`m running racing hart cp-035 forged wheels... are they okay ?
I tested them on the most difficult racetrack in the world and beat the **** out of the whole car... They did very well. No damage, strong brakes til the end.

i suppose you ran your car at sebring, on the long course then? i cant think of any more brutal-poorly taken care of tracks i have raced on!!! eric
North Loop, Nürburgring... Hard for car and driver
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 04:22 PM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (hooptie157)

what type of rims are those, hell if you don't want them give them here
they look like the Volk's CE28N copies.....
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 04:28 PM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (non-VTEC)

They are Konig Heliums and they are not forged so they are cast. The last time I checked konig didn't offer then in 16s or gunmetal so its probably painted and they don't weigh 10lbs...they weigh around 12lbs. I have them in bronze
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 04:38 PM
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Default Re: ultra light wheels.......how light is to light? (George Knighton)

I have seldom seen a Honda-Tech thread with this much misinformation disseminated in such a short amount of time.

Lord, have mercy.
Much nicer than I would have said it...
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