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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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car is 1990 hf crx with b16a swap. was running fine for my bro. died on him while driving. he had a friend check it out. relay good, fuel pump bad. new fuel pump, dizzy cap, wires and plugs. it will crank but won't start. will a small fuel leak keep it from starting?
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 06:35 AM
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So is the fuel pump bad, or is it new?
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:18 AM
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Did you replace the pump? How did you know it was bad?
Are you getting fuel and spark?
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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yes i replaced the pump with new one. the old pump wasn't priming, and it was the original pump. put in the new one and pump is priming. loosened fuel line from fuel filter to motor, and it sprayed fuel, so i think I'm getting fuel. would it still crank, if had no spark?
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Spark and cranking have nothing to do with each other.
A small fuel leak would not stop it from starting.
Check for spark before you get too ahead of yourself.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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whats the easiest way to check spark? newbie to cars and this forum. bought the car in this condition, just want drive it already.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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Use the search button in the upper right hand corner... it IS your friend.

1.) Pick a spark plug wire of your choosing.

2.) Remove ONLY the end that goes into the motor.

3.) Put a spark plug in the wire after you took it off the motor. (If you have no spare spark plug take one out of the motor.) ((It is a 5/8 Socket.))

4.) Lay the threads of the spark plug on metal to ground it out.

5.) (A friend helps here.) Crank the car over and watch for spark.

6.) Pat yourself on the back because you just checked your own spark!!!
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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Do you hear the fuel pump priming when you click the key to the ON position? You should hear a humming noise. The pump may not be getting power. It could be faulty wiring. Also, check the fuses. Maybe a fuse blew for the pump. That might be able to fix your issues.

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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 01:35 AM
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yes the pump is priming. I do hear it humming noise. I also loosened the fuel line from fuel filter to motor, and fuel spayed when I turned key to on position
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 07:38 AM
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Must be spark then or maybe your timing is off? Check your timing and your plugs.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 12:34 AM
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plugs are brand new. Going to trailer the car to family members house to work on it in a few days. I don't have proper tools. I will update when I try all suggestion. all post much appreciated, thanks guys.
do any of these symptoms sound like internal dizzy coil, about how much for one? bump for good luck.
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by N3va3vaSatisfi3d
Use the search button in the upper right hand corner... it IS your friend.

1.) Pick a spark plug wire of your choosing.

2.) Remove ONLY the end that goes into the motor.

3.) Put a spark plug in the wire after you took it off the motor. (If you have no spare spark plug take one out of the motor.) ((It is a 5/8 Socket.))

4.) Lay the threads of the spark plug on metal to ground it out.

5.) (A friend helps here.) Crank the car over and watch for spark.

6.) Pat yourself on the back because you just checked your own spark!!!
I fixed the fuel leak, and checked for spark. no spark, now what?
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 1990 hf crx (Mick)
I fixed the fuel leak, and checked for spark. no spark, now what?
hmmm igniter mite be bad in the dizzy?? happened to me in my 90 si. driving good then poof dies on me. most autoparts stores can test the igniter. its a lil module with wires connected to it inside the dizzy on the bottom part
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 06:04 AM
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yea it sounds like the dizzy is bad ....probably the igniter, older b16 dizzys are known for failing. No big deal ebay is your friend ...just check for spark if its not there chances are it your dizzy.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by efhonda08
yea it sounds like the dizzy is bad ....probably the igniter, older b16 dizzys are known for failing. No big deal ebay is your friend ...just check for spark if its not there chances are it your dizzy.
Can i just replace the igniter? or better off doing the whole dizzy? It's a TD-22u dizzy

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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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You can, but its always nice to have a spare
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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how much $ for a new igniter?
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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jus get a new dizzy i had the same prob. now its fine
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 1990 hf crx (Mick)
how much $ for a new igniter?
new igniter for my sohc was like 80 bucks
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 12:18 AM
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I have rebuilt a few dizzy's in my day and sometimes they work and sometimes they dont i would first have your faimly member check for power to the dizzy befor you buy a new one
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 12:53 AM
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^whats the best way to check for power to a dizzy? Noob here for sure, still learning. Don't know much about checking electrical continuity. family member just has the tools other then that not much help. all help is greatly appreciated.
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 04:17 AM
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i did a b16 swap in my ef and after replacing my whole ignition and check for fuel it turned out being bad spark plugs. Check your plugs man
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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plugs are brand new, never been fired.
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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check the plugs that go to the ecu. Idk if the crx hf came dual point or not...if so maybe a wire thats for an injector popped out of place when your bro did the multipoint conversion on it. Other than spark,fuel and ecu...idk what else to tell you
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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Its getting fuel just not spark. the hf and the Si had multipoint, the dx came with dual point. someone correct me if I'm wrong. I'm going in the morning to see if my dizzy is getting power before i go spend money that i may not have to on a new dizzy. will post how it goes. will look at my ecu and check out plugs and what not just for the hell of it. thanks guys
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