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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 03:57 PM
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Default ram or c.a.i??

which one is better and why.im getting an aem .im thinking about a ram so the filter doesnt have a chance of getting wet .what is the difference in hp gains
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 04:16 PM
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Get the cai the ram air is no better than stock just more noisy.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 04:25 PM
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Get the CAI.

Chances of hydrolock are pretty slim...just don't drive through big puddles, and if you have to, idle through them.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 05:22 PM
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performance is more important than looks.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 07:25 PM
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Default Re: ram or c.a.i?? (PatrickEwing)

The Ram may not make as much power but it damn sure looks better.
Really? Personally I think the short ram's look stupid. I prefer the CAI, but that is my opinion. I also prefer performance over looks. CAI all the way.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 07:33 PM
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u want looks or power? that's the questoin ask yourself that and the answer should come to u
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 07:39 PM
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true, not much difference between the ram and stock..expect a about a 5% increase in power with the cai when ur in the 4k rpm range...the ram is noisy..nice if u like to hear the sound of rushing air..u can get the same performance with a K&N drop in..then drill some 1/4" holes in the bottom of the airbox leaving a single whole in at the lowest point in the box for water drainage just incase..a pretty decent cold airbox without the cost and only takes a few min. s to do..the only real upside to aftermarket intakes is its fashion statement..for FI, thats another story
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 07:46 PM
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Default Re: ram or c.a.i?? (deepnite)

unless you are supercharging go with the CAI or else you wont make any power

if you want to look and sound like a stunna then get the short ram
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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Im not really sure. Ive always thought that cold air intakes made much more power than the ram ones. We were screwing around cause we rented out a dyno and boy were we surprised. The AEM short ram made more peak power on a GSR than the cold air intake. Im not sure how thats possible but one of my engineering buds told me that the cold air intakes are too long and get less and less effective as the air flow goes up cause the friction in the tubes. Not sure but now I really dont know which to go with...
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 09:36 PM
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Default Re: ram or c.a.i?? (Avante)

when ur my age..u get tired of crawling under the front fender to change filters all the time..anyone want to do it for me?..and ill get another one
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 09:57 PM
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Im not really sure. Ive always thought that cold air intakes made much more power than the ram ones. We were screwing around cause we rented out a dyno and boy were we surprised. The AEM short ram made more peak power on a GSR than the cold air intake. Im not sure how thats possible but one of my engineering buds told me that the cold air intakes are too long and get less and less effective as the air flow goes up cause the friction in the tubes. Not sure but now I really dont know which to go with...
That was the case with many of the early magazine reviews as well. The problem is, a dyno isn't the ideal situation for an intake. The primary reason is you usually run with the hood up. This results in much lower air temps for the short-ram.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 10:18 PM
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To get effective numbers you need to leave the hood closed.

And for those of you sick of changing filters in the bumper, that's what the Comptech Icebox is for
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 10:31 PM
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Im not really sure. Ive always thought that cold air intakes made much more power than the ram ones. We were screwing around cause we rented out a dyno and boy were we surprised. The AEM short ram made more peak power on a GSR than the cold air intake. Im not sure how thats possible but one of my engineering buds told me that the cold air intakes are too long and get less and less effective as the air flow goes up cause the friction in the tubes. Not sure but now I really dont know which to go with...
dyno's for intakes are not simulating when the car is moving, that is why u can't really dyno a short ram against a cai
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 11:43 PM
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long tube setup, I know WHY!


BTW it is "Ram Effect"
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 11:47 PM
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cai is better imo....i live in palm springs california and it rains like once a year here plus there isnt any big puddles so hydrolock is very unlikely to happen here......ive actually driven in the rain and nothing has ever happend....the ram is louder i believe but i suggest the cai
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 10:14 AM
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Im not really sure. Ive always thought that cold air intakes made much more power than the ram ones. We were screwing around cause we rented out a dyno and boy were we surprised. The AEM short ram made more peak power on a GSR than the cold air intake. Im not sure how thats possible but one of my engineering buds told me that the cold air intakes are too long and get less and less effective as the air flow goes up cause the friction in the tubes. Not sure but now I really dont know which to go with...

dyno's for intakes are not simulating when the car is moving, that is why u can't really dyno a short ram against a cai
...thats why i made my own
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