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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 03:22 PM
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Today I`ve got my Gtech pro. I had to get it from our duty office in Frankfurt. They wanted to send me into jail because they thought it was a radar detector which is illegal here. It took me 20min of yadda yadda to make everything fine.

A few minutes ago I did my first 0-60 run....in heavy rain....
I ran a 7,41 sec. I pulled not to redline in 1st because I know my tires begin to spin at 7800+ on wet concrete.... I had a little wheel spin when vtec kicked in in 2nd and that`s all...

I am very surprised of the clock. Is this a good time ? And does the Gtech put out values near reality ?

Just curious..

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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 03:29 PM
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In the rain? haha its gonna be crappy times, do it in the dry on a good road like ashphalt or something...
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 03:29 PM
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7.41 is an okay time in the rain i guess. magazines have miraculously pulled low 6's...
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 03:30 PM
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Yeah a low 6 is very possible, but not in the rain lol
its all on the driver of course tho also...
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 03:41 PM
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hahaha,

yes, in the rain it`s **** but what can I do ? It IS raining and I was dying to run a test....

So this 7,41 sound normal ? My R is n/a modified, I`m putting down more than 185whp.. this can be a problem in the rain though...
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 04:26 PM
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OMG yeah you should be in the 5's easily if your a good driver...thats a good amount of hp for a Type R...on dry cement also i ment not rain, in rain type r have tractions problems as it is nevermind gunning it lol


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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 04:32 PM
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OMG yeah you should be in the 5's easily if your a good driver...thats a good amount of hp for a Type R...on dry cement also i ment not rain, in rain type r have tractions problems as it is nevermind gunning it lol


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In the 5's easily? You must be kidding me.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 04:53 PM
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Not 5's in the 1/4 mile or anything...0-60 maybe i ment, i dunno but that should runs a good 1/4 with that kinda whp and a GOOD driver of course...Iv seen 6.1 0-60's so a very high 5 is maybe acheivable...


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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 05:06 PM
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Of course I know you are talking about 0-60.
But still I don't think he can do 5's.

Stock R usually only do high 6's.
(And please don't give me any magazine 0-60 times because I think they are all crap. )
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 05:09 PM
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By the way, sticking back with the topic, I have used Gtech Pro before.
I think it is good to do relative comparison (like before and after mod., compare with friends using the same Gtech etc), but not a true reflection of reality.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 05:11 PM
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By the way, sticking back with the topic, I have used Gtech Pro before.
I think it is good to do relative comparison (like before and after mod., compare with friends using the same Gtech etc), but not a true reflection of reality.

exactly, much better than the old *** dyno
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 05:16 PM
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Ummm magazine times aren't all that great you know, its times are always off and higher than they should be, im sure they haven't driven the cars for very long and can't drive them perfectly, plus they say a 14.8 with a type R....ha ive seen 14.6's and 14.5's with stock r's before and have even seen some timeslips from them...maybe the 0-60 times are ok, but the 1/4 mile times are stupid, when they tested the s2000 in 2000, they said they launched at like 8000rpms and shifted at like 8300rpms each gear, thats retarted since you don't want to shift at the hp peak in an import, cause in the next gear you drop too far out of the good power band, they shouldn've shifted at 9000 or like 8900....there times are never the best times at all....also it depends on your altitude or whatever i guess, but im talkin corrected times i guess...just my 2 cents and ive been looking into that stuff lately kinda...


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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 07:09 PM
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In the 5's easily? You must be kidding me.
Yes, his 0-60 mph times should be in the 5's easily.

"I`m putting down more than 185whp"

LEARN TO READ BEFORE YOU GIVE SOMEONE THE !
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 07:11 PM
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Of course I know you are talking about 0-60.
But still I don't think he can do 5's.

Stock R usually only do high 6's.
(And please don't give me any magazine 0-60 times because I think they are all crap. )
If you think low 0-60 mph times of low, low 6's is "crap", then you aren't driving your car right. A good driver can get low 6 second 0-60 mph times. A so-so driver should still be able to manage high 6 second times.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 07:40 PM
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7.41 is an okay time in the rain i guess. magazines have miraculously pulled low 6's...
they also have flat race tracks to run on with optimal conditions...
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 07:51 PM
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OMG yeah you should be in the 5's easily if your a good driver...thats a good amount of hp for a Type R...on dry cement also i ment not rain, in rain type r have tractions problems as it is nevermind gunning it lol


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5's? Maybe if you're clocking it downhill.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 09:03 PM
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In the 5's easily? You must be kidding me.

Yes, his 0-60 mph times should be in the 5's easily.

"I`m putting down more than 185whp"

LEARN TO READ BEFORE YOU GIVE SOMEONE THE !
I have said it, and I will say it once more:
"In the 5's easily? You must be kidding me. "

I know he is putting down around 185whp, but still 5's is NOT realistic.
For instance, stock WRX and S2K barely run high 5's 0-60.
They both have approx. or even more than 185whp.
And keep in mind one is AWD, the other is RWD. Both have advantage over the FWD that the ITR has.

I own a ITR. I love my ITR. But as much as I like it, a fact is a fact. Some people really need to get out of their "all mighty ITR dream" and take a look outside. ITR is not meant for 0-60 nor drag racing. It is a well balance car that shines on a road course.

To close this up, I will quote what sutats said:
"5's? Maybe if you're clocking it downhill."

Peace
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 09:46 PM
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I know he is putting down around 185whp, but still 5's is NOT realistic.
For instance, stock WRX and S2K barely run high 5's 0-60.
They both have approx. or even more than 185whp.
And keep in mind one is AWD, the other is RWD. Both have advantage over the FWD that the ITR has.
Low 6's are perfectly realistic with a stock ITR and good driver. Why do you find it so hard to believe that 20-25 whp would drop his times by a tenth or two?

I own a ITR. I love my ITR. But as much as I like it, a fact is a fact. Some people really need to get out of their "all mighty ITR dream" and take a look outside. ITR is not meant for 0-60 nor drag racing. It is a well balance car that shines on a road course.
I don't know who you think you are convincing here, but I don't have an "all mighty ITR" . My car is a daily driver/track beater. It has never seen a drag strip, and never will. I'm more anti-drag racing than anything else, so you are preaching to the choir so to speak. The only reason I posted here was because I thought your analysis was a little inaccurate. I don't see any reason why low 6's wouldn't translate to high 5's in 0-60 mph with a 25 whp increase. Even if you are driving a Sherman tank, that 15% power increase is going to help at least a little bit.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 09:51 PM
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stock itrs can hit 6.2 sec 0-60

s2k hits hi 5s. as low as 5.7.

but remember the weight/power ratio of a itr is slightly better than a s2k, so for every additional HP, the ITR will actually see more benefit.


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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 09:53 PM
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but remember the weight/power ratio of a itr is slightly better than a s2k, so for every additional HP, the ITR will actually see more benefit.
Exactly my point. Thanks for putting it in technical terms.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 09:54 PM
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I know he is putting down around 185whp, but still 5's is NOT realistic.
For instance, stock WRX and S2K barely run high 5's 0-60.
They both have approx. or even more than 185whp.
And keep in mind one is AWD, the other is RWD. Both have advantage over the FWD that the ITR has.

Low 6's are perfectly realistic with a stock ITR and good driver. Why do you find it so hard to believe that 20-25 whp would drop his times by a tenth or two?

I own a ITR. I love my ITR. But as much as I like it, a fact is a fact. Some people really need to get out of their "all mighty ITR dream" and take a look outside. ITR is not meant for 0-60 nor drag racing. It is a well balance car that shines on a road course.

I don't know who you think you are convincing here, but I don't have an "all mighty ITR" . My car is a daily driver/track beater. It has never seen a drag strip, and never will. I'm more anti-drag racing than anything else, so you are preaching to the choir so to speak. The only reason I posted here was because I thought your analysis was a little inaccurate. I don't see any reason why low 6's wouldn't translate to high 5's in 0-60 mph with a 25 whp increase. Even if you are driving a Sherman tank, that 15% power increase is going to help at least a little bit.
IMO 5's are possible with power over 185whp.


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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 10:54 PM
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Since when did an ITR have a better weight/power ratio than an S2000??

Anyway, I think that times from mags are ok, but you have to look at a lot of them from reputable sources and then get an average. This will give an indication of how fast a car is compared to others...and its better if the cars are comparison tested since they use standard testing techniques. But I agree they dont really relflect what YOUR car will do with you driving cuz the conditions are different.

Gtech: the accuracy of this thing isnt too great, I would say its + or - .2sec. But just remember you can NEVER say, 'i ran a 14.5 using gtech, so my car is faster than yours since you ran 14.7 at the track'

And the 1/4mile time will be more accurate than the 0-60 since the instantaneous Gforces can be calculated for a longer time. I have found that measuring HP is totally unreliable for similar reasons that I stated above.

As mentioned earlier, Gtech is great for head to head comparing...so if you have a friend who wants see who's car is faster, then its a usefull tool; just be sure to use the exact stretch of road with the exact starting point (and be safe).
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 02:47 AM
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I run 5.6 with low boost to prevent wheel spin on strret tires with my Gtech. Too bad the 3rd gear is necessary for a 0-60mph test. I have raised my redline now to 9200 and will try a run on street tires for 0-60 again. I want to hit 5.3 or something.

On BFG Drag radials 225/50/15 I want to be below 5..........4.9 or something

high 5's, faster is not possible with any whp to a front wheeler, wide street tires and the need of 3 gears to hit 60mph.


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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 02:54 AM
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Lucky, I don`t need the 3rd for 60mph redline 9800.....
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 03:07 AM
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hehe, I had redline 8700 when I did the test, I raised it now to 9200, but when I like I can rev as high than you. Valve train & Rods are built

BTW: I would not rev 9800 with stock rods.
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