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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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Default My wheels always get cross-threaded with the lug nut.....What's the problem

Everytime when i drive to work it runs well for a few days then suddenly out of no where my wheels cross thread with the lug nutz...what is the problem i even put the lug nut in right....
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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what do you mean the wheels cross thread? the only way the lug nuts could start cross threading after they were put on correctly is if they started backing out awkwardly, which should only happen if all the nuts weren't torqued correctly. what kind of symptoms are you getting? is the wheel coming loose?
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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When i start putting the lug nutz in correctly it stays in correctly but 3 days later all of sudden the nut starts coming out..Then when i drive with just ignoring it,the sound gets hella deep from the inside of the trunk...then the lugs nut just pop out and the tire gets woobly like its going to come off...And when i try unlossing the nut won't budge...So i have to take it too a repair shop and have them take it out and it cost's hella
Any suggestions on this topic if any anwers pls post some cause it happens all the damm time
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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Whattt??

If the nuts keep backing off your not torquing to the right spec.

If the nuts have cross threaded on your threads on your studds are likely fuked. You better take a picture if you can and show us your studs. Check the threads. With wheel off see if you can thread the nuts on easily without them going off center.

You might have to start swapping out studds.

I'm still having alot of trouble understanding what your saying is happening though. This sounds quite magical
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 10:43 PM
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are you using the oem lug nuts that are made for your car or aftermarket?
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 05:14 AM
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You barely speak english, but I think I understand. Your problem is either:

-wrong size or damaged lug nuts
-you're not tightening them properly
-damaged studs
-....that's all I can think of...

There's no reason that your lug nuts should be coming off unless something is really wrong.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 06:18 AM
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Oh theres something wrong all right. I think its user error

I should talk to this guy when I wanna have my "ex" knocked off some day down the road
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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Default Re: My wheels always get cross-threaded with the lug nut.....What's the problem

this is a common problem when not using tools. you can't torque the lug nuts enough with just your fingers alone.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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proper torque spec is 80ft/lbs and should be done in a star sequence. however, with what the OP is describing, it also sounds like one or more of the studs may be toast. i'm assuming it's possible to replace the wheel studs just like any of other studs.

password jdm, what exactly is the shop doing when you take it to them and why does this keep happening?
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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When i torque my lug nuts i always put in a star sequence..
Ya 2 studs were damage cause lug nuts got stock together
Even before i put the tire on i try testing to see if the nut stays center and goes in right ...But when i put the tire man everything is ****ed up!!!
What the shop did is they used a tool to get the nut of the stud..And when they tooked it out half of the stud was stuck to the lug nut..So it cost me to get the stud replace and new lug nutz..
Hoped this make sense lol
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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For future refernce:
Always start the lug nut (or any nut, for that matter) by hand so you can feel them going on correctly. And it's best to not use an impact gun on them. Especially with aluminum wheels. You should torque them down with a torque wrench to 80 ft\lbs, then you are supposed to check and re-torque them after 25 miles. After that they should be good. Hope this helps.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Password Jdm
When i torque my lug nuts i always put in a star sequence..
Ya 2 studs were damage cause lug nuts got stock together
Even before i put the tire on i try testing to see if the nut stays center and goes in right ...But when i put the tire man everything is ****ed up!!!
What the shop did is they used a tool to get the nut of the stud..And when they tooked it out half of the stud was stuck to the lug nut..So it cost me to get the stud replace and new lug nutz..
Hoped this make sense lol
not really
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 05:34 AM
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ahhaha Kronn lol
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 05:37 AM
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I think you should have someone else work on your car from now on...
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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what kind of rims are you using? any chance the rim is damaged? i could see if potentially the hub of the rim was damaged (warped) and was exerting force only on one side of the nut, you might get the symptoms you are seeing. just throwing it out there.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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Default Re: My wheels always get cross-threaded with the lug nut.....What's the problem

I'm using the stock si rims..
Ya the rim was damage...But im still using it..
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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what kind of damage? think you may have found your problem.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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Default Re: My wheels always get cross-threaded with the lug nut.....What's the problem

Originally Posted by gstrudler
what kind of damage? think you may have found your problem.
Let's not jump to conclusions just yet. OP, are you having this problem ONLY with the lugs holding the damaged rim? If so, I'd have to agree with gstrudler. If not, I'd have to lean more towards user-error.
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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Default Re: My wheels always get cross-threaded with the lug nut.....What's the problem

are you using stock lug nuts? aftermarket lugs seat differently to the rim than stock ones do.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 06:14 AM
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sounds very dangerous.....get all new studs and lugnuts asap
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 06:19 AM
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What about replacing the damaged rim thats offsetting the nuts that are going on the studs. If the nut can't go on straight because of a damaged rim it will cross thread every time and wreck every new stud you put in. Or the bolt. Either way one of those guys are gonna get facked up untill the rim is corrected.

Bottom line for him if he's even reading his own post anymore is he has to get that car to a reputable shop asap and get everything looked at
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 06:34 AM
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Default Re: My wheels always get cross-threaded with the lug nut.....What's the problem

Originally Posted by ethereal2pt2
are you using stock lug nuts? aftermarket lugs seat differently to the rim than stock ones do.
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you need stock lugs with stock rims
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 06:41 AM
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what you think the lug nuts are not oem and arn't met for his rim?
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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So just get new stock si rims and new lug nut?
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Password Jdm
So just get new stock si rims and new lug nut?
"Are you having this problem ONLY with the lugnuts holding the damaged rim? If so, I'd have to agree with gstrudler."

In other words, are they coming loose on all 4 wheels or just 1 wheel?
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