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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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Well, here is yet another turbo-charged honda masterpiece from Anthony and AV-Enineering! It was completed about two months ago but I just found the time to post it in here. If you have seen it on preludepower then its nothing new. This car is a dream come reality for me. I spent over a year planning what I wanted to do to my near stock 98 prelude and Anthony spent over a year creating it for me. About 90% of the stuff you see below was done by Anthony and AV-Engineering. Thank you AV-Engineering for everything! I'll let the specs, dyno charts, pics, and vids speak for themselves...

Exterior:
Complete repaint to Supermarine Blue Pearl
VIS Mugen replica front, oem sides and rear
Seibon Carbon Fiber Hood/ Clear coated
Aerocatch flush locking hood latches

Interior:
AP1 S2000 Steering wheel
Black JDM Type R Recaros with Wedge brackets
Sparco Harness Bar
Schroth 4pt Racing Harnesses
PSPEC True Short Shift Kit
4% Tint all around
AEM UEGO Wideband
DEFI Blue Racer Oil Pressure Gauge
DEFI Blue Racer Boost Gauge
Blue LED light conversion on climate control and side switches (performed by prelude1897)
aftermarket all black front floor mats (dstuning)
AC autoechnic S7 el gauges (gauge overlay)
Full aftermarket two way paging alarm
Accord remote trunk release

Engine/ Drive train/ Engine Management:
AV Engineering Stage 3 Shortblock
Rated for 500whp
-ERL SuperDeck 1 Sleeves - Pressure tested at 45psi (closed deck)
-CP Pistons 9.0:1 compression stock bore
-Eagle Rods
-CP Piston rings, wrist pins, locks (Ring-End Gap Set specific to
power goals)
-ACL Main/Rod Bearings and Thrust Washers (All Clearances
Measured)
-OEM Honda Gaskets
-Block bored and final hone
-Block hot tanked 4x
-Align Hone
-Polished Crank
-Block resurfaced
-Fully assembled
OEM Water Pump Upgrade
OEM Oil Pump Upgrade
H22a Balancer Shaft Removal Kit
Blueprinted bottom end with Spec Sheet
AV Engineering Stage 4 Head
Stage 4 Port & polish (Hot tank, Crack check, Competition 3 angle valve job, Mirror surface, New valve-seals, SuperTech valve-train (Ti Retainers, Dual Valve springs, STD., Comp Valves)
Skunk2 Intake Manifold
OEM head gasket
OEM Valve cover gasket
OEM Cam seals (timing belt and dist. sides)
OEM Timing belt
Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket
All other new OEM gaskets installed
AEM High Volume Fuel Rail- silver (stock OEM FPR and filter)
NGK Blue Spark Plug Wires
NGK 3330 Plugs (Low Boost) and -9 for High Boost
Hondata 4bar Map Sensor
Complete new Fuel System Installed with o-rings
ARP Head stud kit
AEM 5 bolt Cam Gears (Blue)
Innovative 75a track/ race engine mounts
Quaife A.T.B Differential
Advanced Clutch Technology extreme pressure plate, 6 puck sprung disc
AV Engineering OBD2a-OBD1 Conversion Harness
Hondata s300 Unit with Hondata socketed P28 ECU
Hondata s300 Boost controller
Precision 1000cc Low Impedance Injectors
Precision Turbo and Engine Intercooler 31.5" x 8.00" x 3.5" Rated at 600 HP
Tial 44mm Wastegate - Blue
Tial 50mm BOV - Blue
Walbro 255 hp Fuel Pump Rated at 600whp
Precision SC6262s turbocharger (T3 .63 a/r, 70 ar comp)
AV Engineering Intercooler Piping Kit 2.5" Mandrel Bent Aluminum 100% Tig Welded/Back Purged Stainless Steel T-Bolt Clamps 4 Ply High Pressure Silicone Couplers Transitional Couplers Bead welded ends to prevent slippage Includes BOV Flange and installation
AV-Engineering Custom top-mount equal length manifold for ac/ps compatibility
AV Engineering custom 3" downpipe
2 02 sensor bungs
Stainless Steel V-Band
AV Engineering Stage 4 Traction Bar
Greddy Oil Sandwich Adapter
Stainless steel braided lines and Earl's Quick-Connect Aluminum Swivel-Seal Ends Brass T and misc fittings.
Optima Red-Top Battery
Spal 13″ and 11″ Pusher/Puller Fans

Brakes and Suspension:
H&R Springs and KYB Shocks
SPC Camber Kit
Volk LE28n 17x7.5 gunmetal with polished lip with Goodyear Eagle F1 Tires
Brembo Blank Front Rotors
OEM Rear Rotors
Hawk HPS Pads


Some before pics:
when I first bought her in 2004


getting ready for paint

right after paint



completed pics:
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interior





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oLOZv_B3Qk
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race


pump


just waiting on Anthony to post up the dyno vids of the race gas dyno run

here are the videos that I took when I picked the car up. The dyno run on this one was 417 and set very rich so I could drive it back to MN and not worry about it leaning out due to the colder air.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Cv11M0T1k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH8RVH6CWuU

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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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Sick car! I really thought this car would put out more though. Considering all the things you've done to it.

Oh... I noticed a run on the valve cover. Just under the "V" in VTEC. I hope the whole car isn't like that.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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Everything is looking very nicely done.....
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Slick_LudE
Sick car! I really thought this car would put out more though. Considering all the things you've done to it.

Oh... I noticed a run on the valve cover. Just under the "V" in VTEC. I hope the whole car isn't like that.
After all the work he has put in to it, the most you can say is that?

Car looks great. Congrats on getting it to where you want it to be.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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Best part... He can still blast his AC. Your car is simply FTW!

How is traction on the street? Can you hook 3rd? Get some videos of this bad boy up asap
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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awsome color. money well spent. nice job.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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anthony was born of Jesus.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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really? I heard Jesus used to tune hondata and build motors until anthony showed him up which is why Jesus hasn't returned to earth.. :p
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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I'm in love.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Arsenal
After all the work he has put in to it, the most you can say is that?

Car looks great. Congrats on getting it to where you want it to be.
Yes... and your point?
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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This is definitely in the top 5 of most beautiful Ludes I've ever seen. The only thing that is missing is a nice JDM front strut bar

I have a few questions:

What is that paint code?
Is that front bumper fiberglass or Urethane?
If Urethane, where did you get it?

I also saw the run in the paint. Did anyone else see the dent in the downpipe?
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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very well built prelude!!!!
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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plain and simple ur lude is jst BEAUTIFUL!
really like the paint job =]
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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No catch-can/positive crankcase pressure relieving system?

Looks good.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 02:25 AM
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"OEM Water Pump Upgrade
OEM Oil Pump Upgrade"

Would you elaborate this, please?

Also: how is the oil drain routed?

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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 05:27 AM
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^^ x 2

what was ring end gap set at ?
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH
Did anyone else see the dent in the downpipe?
We had to put that there for additional clearance on the passenger side tracton bar radius rod. Maintaining true suspension geometry is more important than a very tiny 'ding' in a 3" downpipe that's 30" away from the exhaust turbine.


Originally Posted by Slick_LudE
Sick car! I really thought this car would put out more though. Considering all the things you've done to it.

Oh... I noticed a run on the valve cover. Just under the "V" in VTEC. I hope the whole car isn't like that.
I was hoping for more power as well. Unfortunately we only had a 12psi wastegate spring on the 44mm wastegate as Todd's "Original Goal" was only 400whp. Since the 400whp he decided to go for 500whp and we couldn't run more than 23-24psi. When Todd picked his car up we had some very strange weather. Literally it was 80-90 degrees one day then 30-40 degrees the next 2 days. When we did the 461whp on pump gas we had 20-40 degree weather on the dyno which was perfect.... but we were all out of race gas. So lucky us the next day the weather shot back up to the 80's. Hondata does have ECT and IAT correction tables but there's nothing you can do about barometric pressure changes. All things held constant, at 24psi with cooler weather the car probably would have picked up another 30whp judging from pulls that I compared from temp X to temp Y. But honestly, when you're making 500whp another 30whp isn't really anything crazy since he will only run this setting on race gas. It's more for bragging rights at this point.

As far as the run on the valve cover... it's difficult to paint them properly. The casting on them suck 9 times out of 10. Powdercoating them gives you a much better finish but have fun trying to match the colors properly. As far as our painting abilities go... Todd's paint job is flawless minus the valve cover as pointed out and a small tiny tiny section on his rear bumper in the license plate holder section which is due to a shitty bumper (pardon my french) which should have been replaced.

This car is absolutely gorgeous and definetely deserves some magazine coverage.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by lude98SH
^^ x 2

what was ring end gap set at ?
Big enough to support 600whp

Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH
Did anyone else see the dent in the downpipe?
We had to put that there for additional clearance on the passenger side tracton bar radius rod. Maintaining true suspension geometry is more important than a very tiny 'ding' in a 3" downpipe that's 30" away from the exhaust turbine.


Originally Posted by Slick_LudE
Sick car! I really thought this car would put out more though. Considering all the things you've done to it.

Oh... I noticed a run on the valve cover. Just under the "V" in VTEC. I hope the whole car isn't like that.
I was hoping for more power as well. Unfortunately we only had a 12psi wastegate spring on the 44mm wastegate as Todd's "Original Goal" was only 400whp. Since the 400whp he decided to go for 500whp and we couldn't run more than 23-24psi. When Todd picked his car up we had some very strange weather. Literally it was 80-90 degrees one day then 30-40 degrees the next 2 days. When we did the 461whp on pump gas we had 20-40 degree weather on the dyno which was perfect.... but we were all out of race gas. So lucky us the next day the weather shot back up to the 80's. Hondata does have ECT and IAT correction tables but there's nothing you can do about barometric pressure changes. All things held constant, at 24psi with cooler weather the car probably would have picked up another 30whp judging from pulls that I compared from temp X to temp Y. But honestly, when you're making 500whp another 30whp isn't really anything crazy since he will only run this setting on race gas. It's more for bragging rights at this point.

As far as the run on the valve cover... it's difficult to paint them properly. The casting on them suck 9 times out of 10. Powdercoating them gives you a much better finish but have fun trying to match the colors properly. As far as our painting abilities go... Todd's paint job is flawless minus the valve cover as pointed out and a small tiny tiny section on his rear bumper in the license plate holder section which is due to a shitty bumper (pardon my french) which should have been replaced.

There are some other things that I would have liked to have seen on this car but Todd's budget went way overboard so we had to put the cap on things at some point. I'd also like to thank Todd for his patience that he had with us during the build. We have customers think that stuff like this can be done in 3 months... some people have no clue how long stuff like this takes. As you can see we are very **** with our work and keeping things clean and tidy takes a while... minus a run on the valve cover of course, lol.

This car is absolutely gorgeous and definetely deserves some magazine coverage.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 07:05 AM
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Kinda double posting, heh?

What about oil pump and water pump, not to mention the drain....
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by pentaq
"OEM Water Pump Upgrade
OEM Oil Pump Upgrade"

Would you elaborate this, please?

Also: how is the oil drain routed?
most of the specs I posted up there are straight off one of the estimates anthony gave me. I don't think its actually an upgrade since it's oem but thats probably just how he has it labeled in his system. As far as the oil drain routing goes I'm not quite sure, maybe anthony can answer that one.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH
This is definitely in the top 5 of most beautiful Ludes I've ever seen. The only thing that is missing is a nice JDM front strut bar

I have a few questions:

What is that paint code?
Is that front bumper fiberglass or Urethane?
If Urethane, where did you get it?

I also saw the run in the paint. Did anyone else see the dent in the downpipe?
I don't know if I'll put a JDM strut bar on there but, definately the best performing strut bar i can find will eventually go on there. I want to put a progress rear sway bar on first to correct some of that understeer. The front bumper is made by VIS and it is fiberglass. There is not any urethane mugen front bumpers that I know of.

This is actually the first time I've really noticed that run in the paint of the valve cover. It must be very hard to notice it in person. I'll look at it when I get home.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by pentaq
Kinda double posting, heh?

What about oil pump and water pump, not to mention the drain....
Yea... for some reason it won't let me edit or delete my posts???

The oil pump is slightly modified by us for higher pressures and we check/modify the clearances on the gears in some circumstances. The water pump is simply an OEM pump.

The return line is pretty simple and straight forward using a 45 off the turbo and a 45 back into the oil pan with all Earl's stainless steel braided lines and swivel-seal fittings.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH
This is definitely in the top 5 of most beautiful Ludes I've ever seen. The only thing that is missing is a nice JDM front strut bar

I have a few questions:

What is that paint code?
Is that front bumper fiberglass or Urethane?
If Urethane, where did you get it?

I also saw the run in the paint. Did anyone else see the dent in the downpipe?
paint code B84P
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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Wow, thats the closet thing to perfect I've ever seen. You did that ****.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:06 AM
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Care to explain how its relieving crank case pressure?
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