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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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just swap my b20 non vtec. wanna make it legal.
is it possible in california???
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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No truck/suv engine in car. So, no.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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Only think its legal if its a DB, other than that you cant. Anyone else can confirm this
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 04:41 AM
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Default Re: can b20 be a bard legal in a integra????

Originally Posted by mrchevez
Only think its legal if its a DB, other than that you cant. Anyone else can confirm this
How would it be legal just because it's an Integra 4-door? If a truck/SUV engine is illegal in a car, then it's illegal, no matter what car it is.

Although it really is a retarded law, to not allow a smaller, more fuel efficient engine than say, an H23 engine.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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Pretty sure I heard it's okay in a DB.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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Default can a b20 be bard legal in a integra???

motor is complete stock non vtec.
just wondering bc wanna to make it pass smog legally.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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Default Re: can a b20 be bard legal in a integra???

a B20 in CA can't be bar'd because it is known for a "lightweight truck motor"
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ALLxMOTOR EG
a B20 in CA can't be bar'd because it is known for a "lightweight truck motor"
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by EM2K20
motor is complete stock non vtec.
just wondering bc wanna to make it pass smog legally.



what kind of car is this in? if its in a 3rd gen integra, u may be able to pass smog with it at a normal smog station, it cannot be bar'd, but visually it looks just like the ls motor so it just depends on if the smog tech realizes its not the stock motor.

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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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Although it really is a retarded law, to not allow a smaller, more fuel efficient engine than say, an H23 engine.
Emissions requirements on light duty truck engines is much more lax than for car engines.

Since engine swapped cars must conform to the emissions requirements of the engine donor car, that would allow the swap to run "dirtier" than before, increasing pollution. Thats also why the donor must be same year or newer, to force the same or more stringent smog requirements after the swap (the car will not pollute more, and possibly pollute less).

So, I get why the law is what it is. But, at first glance it does seem retarded to not allow a B20 when a J35 would be legal...
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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b20's can be bar'd in 4 door integra's
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Default Re: can a b20 be bard legal in a integra???

Originally Posted by iwanttokillgod
b20's can be bar'd in 4 door integra's
who has a bar'd b20?
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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i saw one in riverside once and i asked the guy at the bar and he confirmed somethin to do with the weight of the car or somethin cant remember
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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Default Re: can a b20 be bard legal in a integra???

Someone please explain how it could be BAR'd in a 4-door Integra if it's illegal in CA to put a light truck motor in a car? A 4-door Integra is a "car" just like a 2-door Integra, and not a truck.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerN00b
Emissions requirements on light duty truck engines is much more lax than for car engines.

Since engine swapped cars must conform to the emissions requirements of the engine donor car, that would allow the swap to run "dirtier" than before, increasing pollution. Thats also why the donor must be same year or newer, to force the same or more stringent smog requirements after the swap (the car will not pollute more, and possibly pollute less).

So, I get why the law is what it is. But, at first glance it does seem retarded to not allow a B20 when a J35 would be legal...

totally right, i was going to school to be a smog tech, got a dui and gave up... worked part time at a cal state ref, NO b20's will be bar'd not even your friends 4 door integra!!!! sorry but not going to happen... lol nice try though.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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Default Re: can a b20 be bard legal in a integra???

Unless someone can show proof of a B20 being BAR'd in a 4-door Integra, no more saying you "think" it can be done or you "thought you heard" it can be done. Sounds like a load of incorrect information to me.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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why dont you call the bar and ask
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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Default Re: can a b20 be bard legal in a integra???

Just to point this out, the 88-91 Prelude had the engine designation B20A. That engine is legal to swap into a same year or older car.

The CR-V B20, is what isn't legal in a passenger car.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Default Re: can a b20 be bard legal in a integra???

haha 3rd gen Prelude = bastard-child B20 engine
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 04:33 AM
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Default Re: can a b20 be bard legal in a integra???

you can hope the smog tech doesn't notice the swap and may be able to pass if emission are within your car's specs. maybe.
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 11:29 PM
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California for the lost! State that made imports famous also made imports hard to mod.
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