I'm desperate. My clutch finally arrived and all I need to do is resurface the flywheel, install clutch, and drive!!! I bought PB blaster, and an electric kawasaki impact gun. It won't budge! I've only owned the car for around 15 months, first time dropping the tranny, so anything could be happening with those flywheel bolts. I sprayed the bolts with pb blaster, and left it stand like for 15 minutes, gave it a go, and NO GO! I sprayed it some more ( SOAKING WET) and am gonna give it a second go in a while.

I am using a 17" 12 point socket with a converter ( socket is not 1/2 inch, so i convert it to 1/2 inch)
I got the impact gun TODAY, from Pepboys. Its rated somewhere around 220 ft/lbs.


* Fifth Element voice * pleeeaaaaaseee heeeeeeeeeelp!

 

I have no idea what the deal is with the flywheel. But Fifth Element rocks, shes slammin hot.

sorry...lol....good luck with Flywheel...

 

Well the gun might not have enough snot to brake the bolts free but you need to get a socket that will fit the gun without a converter and use a shallow well socket. This will give you the most tourqe out of the gun and might be enough to brake them free. You might also want to try a little heat on them. Also since you are takng the flywheel off to have it resurfaced its a good time to replace the pilot bearing

 

I've gone so many damn times to pepboys and western auto these past 2 days. . . .
The closer I get to actually getting my car going again, the harder this s*** gets!



F. U. MURPHY!!!

 

Lol, i know where your at and how bad it sux. its so hard untill you find out if you heat it up red hot with a torch they will come out with eaze.

go to autozone and buy a mini torch it will be yellow or red. put it on one of the bolts and hold it maybe 2 minutes or untill red hot and then pour water on the bolt fast and then it will always come out with eaze. the torch is about 15 bux max. Good Luck man.

 

Your impact gun isn't strong enough...Little impact drivers used by contractors put out almost that much, and they're tiny. 300-350+ would probably do the trick with ease. The torch would work too, but that also makes it a lot easier for the bolt to break. I wouldn't get it red hot right away, but start by heating it a little and then try to break it free...if that doesn't work try again with some more heat. Loctite also has a bottle of stuff that freezes bolts to break them free...same idea as a torch but the other direction. The goal is to change the temperature fast enough to break the seal.

 

Just borrow or rent a bigger impact, thats what i used. Heating it up, i dont think thats the best idea.

 

Dude!!! I got the torch, with the spout thing. And 2 tanks! ( Even better than Autozone. . I went over to grandpa's house haha he has EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD in that tool shed!)
Anyways. . I might need some guidance on using the torch. I'll light it. . . and just hold it up to the bolt, just one bolt at a time until its red hot? And then toss some nice cool water on it and QUICKLY put the impact gun on the bolt and undo it? But if the bolt is a little too hot. . wouldn't it be soft and might break? I want to get this over with toodaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Thanks for all of your quick responses guys!

 

OK now Im having second thoughts on getting it hot. I'm thinking heating it, and letting it cool down a lot. ( lots of water, and more pb blaster) to avoid actually breaking the bolt.

 

depends on ur air compressor too. max CFMs is what you want. thats like the torque. try a good impact. try a 1/2" drive socket. an adapter/extension/etc lowers how much power is transfered thru. use a torch, heat 'um up, and give 'er hell. if all else fails. and you have the room. jam something in the fly wheel so it doesn't spin. get a 1/2 drive and put a long pipe on it for leverage. good luck.

 

Don't torch those.

Go get a 1/2'' ratchet or breaker bar to put the 17mm socket on.

Hold the engine by taking another 1/2'' ratchet or breaker bar and a peice of pipe and wedging it so that the engine can't turn over. Or have a friend hold it in place.

Turn the bolts via the breaker bar and use a long peice of pipe if you have to. The bolts are easy to round off if you get the socket crooked, however. So be careful.

You can get more than 220lbs with a big peice of pipe on a breaker bar. Unless you have guhhhrly ahhrrms.

BTW, san juan was really cool. I lost my glasses at el yonke in that waterfall/swimming hole RIGHT before some girl with HUGE breasts jumped into the 60 degree water. F#%K!! I couldn't see!! I'm still bitter to this day about that.

 

i have done several engine bro, and i have torched all these dam bolts and never a single problem. just go to your grandpas and do it. trust me. the only thing your gonna damage is maybe your rear main oil seal. but your right their might as well change it its like 5 bux. the bolts will not brake.

 

dont heat it a **** load. do it a little at a time. heat it up throw water on it unbolt it. if it still dont budge, heat it a little more than before and throw more water and try to pull it out. i used a socket and normal rachet and i always did this but most would only come out right when i got it red hot. not super red but right when it gets a little red.

 

I heat it for like 30 seconds, and it still doesn't get red hot. Ill toss some more water and give it a go, then just heat it longer. BRB!!! I'll keep u posted.

 

ya, thats a good start. i didn't have a good socket or a impact gun. so you probbly wont even have to heat it verry much. i couldn't get much power to mine because the socket sucked.

 

Do no heat it, you might end up braking the bolts, or them failing on you down the road, you know, when you are driving the car.

Never listen to TravisCadello, he gives out ****ing retarted information. He is the guy who runs open HEAD and trys to JB Welb studs to the head.

 

First off, What the hell does heating these bolts up and cooling them off fastly and removing them got to do with the bolts ****ing failing later down the street? huh?

Do ya'll relize what happens to these dam bolts after 140k miles? they are constantly under heat and stress and over time they get stuck in. and a little heat will not do nothing but help loosen em.

I'm here to help the guy your here to try in make me look stupid. he needs help and thats what i ****ing gave him so you go **** off untill you come up with a better plan to get these rusted and welded together bolts out of the engine.

 

i also suggest a breaker bar and see how it goes..goodluck!

 

When you keep heating a metal red hot and then throwing water on them, it makes them weaker in the end. Jackass. Leave honda-tech.

 

who the hell said keep heating it red hot?, 90 percent of the time it dont even come down to getting it red hot. just right before it gets red hot then pour water on it to cool it down and remove it. he has a dam impact wrech so he probbly barely heated em up and they came out. me i got mine red hot ONCE and quickly cooled it off and loosed it with a bull **** socket that slipped and it came out like it wasn't even tight. I guarreentee right now he is on the last bolt and already done with all others. so I'm not gonna sit here and waste my time telling you **** i have experience with and have done several times and have someone clueless sit here and tell me im dumb and **** because i ASKED ONCE about jb weld because i have hered good **** about it.

 

I will agree that putting water on something that is red hot is not the way to go. When you heat something up it expands as molecules spread and then you go and cool it off instanly before the molecules can reconnect. This is what I was told by a professional welder and I am sure that if you ask a welder he will tell you the same thing that it weakens the metal so dont do it. actuall when you do get it out I would go ahead and replace them.

 

Um, in your previous post, you said get them red hot. Keep on heating them.

 

travis I know you probally dont have the best good standings with everybody here on HT and it is cause of the insane things that you ask some times but I am telling you as being a mech for almost 4 yrs now that heating up the bolts and cooling it down is not the way to go. heating them up is ok but you need to let them cool down on there own or yes it is possible to break the bolt off.

 

use a breaker bar on the bolt and a breaker bar on the crank pulley bolt

or just use a little heat and they should come out, its recommended to use loctite for thos bolts and the heat will let the loctite break free, just dont pour water on them, heat them up a little bit, impact them off and let them set and cool on their own

 

not 100% possitive since its been a while since i did mine, but arent the bolts a reverse thread???? if so then ur tightening...