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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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I just recently did a fresh rebuild on my ls block and when the car got back to me it was doing 2 things. At idle it is misfiring and it is running rich. I changed the plugs and the wires are good. Please HELP! I think it is one of two things; Fuel Injectors took a crap or there is a vacuum leak. What is your take. Your $0.02 are always welcome.
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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I just recently did a fresh rebuild on my ls block and when the car got back to me it was doing 2 things. At idle it is misfiring and it is running rich. I changed the plugs and the wires are good. Please HELP! I think it is one of two things; Fuel Injectors took a crap or there is a vacuum leak. What is your take. Your $0.02 are always welcome.

Running rich is a byproduct of the misfire. When you have a misfire, the unburnt gas will cause the rich condition.
Solve the misfire problem and your rich condition should be resolved as well.
I would perform a compression test and a leak down test to determine the condition of the motor.
Also, what is timing set to? Is it obd 1 or 2? Any CEL?
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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Timing was set to stock. the timing is dead on. Its obd2. It has a CEL but i havent checked it. A compression test is not needed cause i just rebuilt the motor.
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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It cant be the timing cause it only misfires while idling. When i am coasting it runs fine.
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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Timing was set to stock. the timing is dead on. Its obd2. It has a CEL but i havent checked it. A compression test is not needed cause i just rebuilt the motor.
Just because it's a fresh build doesn't mean squat. If you're assuming because it's a fresh build and nothing can go wrong, then you have a lot to learn. Did you rebuild the engine yourself? Did you do the install yourself?
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 04:42 AM
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No I didn't do it myself. I went to a professional shop. The guy said he has a gut feeling it's the injectors but I want some other feedback from other sources b4 I continue
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 06:26 AM
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Well first off, pull the CEL code, then get that fixed. If that doesn't solve your problem report back.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 07:32 AM
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All right... i will do that. Let me get to autozone in bit
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 07:38 AM
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lol the cel is pretty much tellin you whats wrong...this aint the 60's anymore bro.
deff get back to us on that. i would say maybe a map sensor? you probably forgot to plug something in
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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No I didn't do it myself. I went to a professional shop. The guy said he has a gut feeling it's the injectors but I want some other feedback from other sources b4 I continue
I doubt it's an injector, otherwise you would have problems at all rpms, not just during idle.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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that's the thing that has me confused... I had this problem problem before the rebuild. But i did not feel it as much. I think its because of the upped compression. I had this problem that i would be driving regularly and it would just like start to stumble on the RPM and go down and down until i mashed the gas pedal to the floor and then the car would jump. This problem would come like once in 2 weeks. So I dont want to leave the injector out just yet.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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When was the last time you did an electronic tune up? New wires, cap, rotor, you may even have a faulty ignition coil. I had a similar problem when that contact spring on my ignition coil was bent and wasn't making good contact with the distributor. Car was slugish till I hit around 3400-3600 rpm, then the car would just pull.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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my prelude did that after a rebuild when the valves didnt seat correctly just a thought and my 0.02
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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I was thinking as well about the valves.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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BTW... this is what the computer said. Oxygen sensor, and random misfire in cylinders 1 2 and 4
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dudeomega2000
BTW... this is what the computer said. Oxygen sensor, and random misfire in cylinders 1 2 and 4
Address the CEL that is listed first, fixing the first CEL Code may address the following codes if you're lucky.
Was a valve adjustment performed after the rebuild?
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 05:53 AM
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yea it was... I am talking with the guy to c what we are gonnna do.
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 11:00 AM
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thats what mine did too the machine shop ****ed me and only replaced 12 of the 16 valves they siad the other 4 were fine i even asked if ther were sure and 2 weeks later they tuliped
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 04:08 AM
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lol... that really sux bro.
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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my 91 is doing the exact same thing...except my fuel pressure is also 12lbs too low.
stumbles under a load...
fuel psi low...
runs rich...
kind of ironic huh?
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