I'm working on a 90 Dx auto and need the crank pulley off. I've tried to use a screwdriver in the starter and a breaker bar, and it was impossible to keep it in the flywheel. My roomate also tried to do the rope trick, like on some euro cars, and that didnt help either... We don't have an air compressor, so an impact is out of the question... Is there any other way then ordering the tool from Honda (don't wanna do that just for a one time thing)..

 

a autoparts store should have the special tool for under 20 dollars. if you dont have a air compressor its well worth it imo

 

Torch... Heat the bolt up, it will come off like butter!

 

i've tried a torch before never worked cause if you heat up the bolt it will expand in the threads you would some how have to freeze the bolt itself to get it to shrink it, the tool might be a better idea

 

You must not being doing it right... It hasn't failed me once!

 

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should be able to rent the tool.

 

chain wrench braced against the gound and wrapped around the pulley works to. hasn't failed me yet.

 

THIS is how i removed/installed my crank pulley.

Steps:

1 - Take off the number 4 cylinder plug
2 - Remove the spark plug from #4
3 - Place a long flathead screwdriver into the hole (you have to have your alternator belt removed)
4 - Spin your crank pulley untill you notice the screwdriver either moving up or down
5 - spin the crank pulley untill the screwdriver is at its highest point out
6 - place a medium-thick rope into the cylinder
7 - feed the rope through a fair amount, do not pack or push it in
8 - take your torque bar, fit it on the bolt 17mm i beleive
9 - give her one hard push/pull to un-tighten it

And.. Your good!

 

Hahaha, holy ****. Sounds so ghetto but I could see it working.

I'd still be worried about the valves trying to open against that rope if you're not careful.

 

Why the **** would you put foreign objects like that in the cylinder? So that you can leave crap in the combustion chamber? Torch works best if you don't have air tools at your disposal.

 

Is there any chance of damaging the crank seal doing this?

 

There's a chance of a lot happening, but I'm not saying to sit there with the torch until you get things SO hot it turns cherry red, just to the point where the bolt breaks free.

 

I should have just bought the tool, and will next time for sure. I ended up using a "wonder bar" type pry-bar that jammed perfectly into the starter hole/flywheel teeth and an 8ft breaker bar that I had to put most of my weight on. It was a full day just to break the bolt free. I tried heating it with a torch but that failed -- it only melted the lower timing cover. Once again, buying the tool will be more than worth the money.
It is so much easier on some other makes when you can just let the starter do the work.

 

LOL!
Never thought of shoving rope in the cylinder for removing the crank bolt - probably will never try it. Seems like you are asking for something to break.

BTW: for those people flaming putting rope into the cylinder. If you don't have an air compressor, filling the cylinder with nylon rope is a suggested way to change out valve guides with the head on while preventing the valve from dropping into the cylinder. However, you do NO apply nearly the same pressure as required to get a rusty crank bolt off.

 

Just go rent the tool , if u never done it this way most likely you'll end up screwing something up.

 

I would avoid holding the crank by jamming the pistons, the bearings are oil floating bearings, so with no oil pressure you are probably going to damage the rod bearing, possibly more.

The easiest way is with a nice impact wrench and doubled air lines.

 

the left over peices of the rope will burn is what i've been told by some techs you just have to use the right kind but never tried it myself and if you heat the bolt it expands how does that get it loose? unless the threads in the end of the crankshaft expands more....

 

the rope is removed afterwards, but that is not the point. The point is that you are putting massive amounts of pressure on the rod bearing with no oil.

 

Ok, so i've tried the rope trick, a screwdriver and pry bar on the flywheel, starting the car with a breaker bar up against the frame, and even a craftsman 1/2" impact on my little air compressor (90 psi 5 gallon), heating up the bolt and using an electric 1/2" impact (didnt have the air tool at that time) nothing has worked at all...

I was wondering if anyone knew where I could get this:

http://www.amazon.com/Alltrade-64882.../dp/B0002Q8TTG

Nobody online has it in stock... I think it's my only option

 

It’s not. As I said already use a chain wrench. put a shop rag around the crank. then wrap the wrench around the crank and brace it against the ground. get out a 1/2" ratchet wrench and at least a 2ft pipe or something strong enough to use as a breaker. i would be very surprised if this doesn't work. my mechanic friend and I have used this method on multiple occasions on a multitude of vehicles and it hasn't failed us yet. If you happen to have a 1/2" breaker bar that would be a better option than the ratchet wrench, but either will get the job done.

 

I borrowed the tool from a local shop when I was in vancouver (actually not so local) I had it strapped to my road bikes top tube, like a 45 min. ride LOL but yeah it was so easy, if you can find one its worth it if your into working on these cars!

 

Between Ebay, Amazon, and some specialty tool online stores, there always seem to be some available. E.g.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CRANK...Q5fAccessories


Aim for paying not more than $50 total for one from an online store. That is, tool cost + s/h should be not more than about $50 for the best deals around.

Maybe you would like to make your own tool, though? See http://honda.lioness.googlepages.com...eyholdingtools . I have used the homemade tool pictured at the top half-a-dozen or more times now and am very happy with it. Granted the store made ones are getting mighty cheap to buy, though.

 

I've done it roughly 5-6 times, carefully and patiently. Works like a charm

 

The correct tool is even available cheap from amazon... worth its weight in gold.