has hondata released the k pro for our cars?

 

no

A simple search of their site can answer this for you.

 

yeah i checked their site but i went to my local hondata dealer and i wanted to get the hondata reflash and they said i should just get the k pro. I told them i did not think it was out yet but they said it was so i was making sure. sorry

 

the shop you went to is either smoking crack or they know something that the rest of the public doesn't.

I always look under "news" on the hondata site to see if they've come up with anything. they still only advertise the reflash.

they have made the dual ECU setup for the S2000.....I hope they apply that same setup or better for the civic.

 

def something wrong with that hondata dealer

 

my friend has a type s and he was saying that he read that the only way to get it is to get it burn onto a stock 02 k20a ecu... but i dk about all that

 

that's right, even on the rsx you can only use the 02-04 rsx for k-pro. in order to use k-pro on a 05-06 rsx you gotta use the older ecu. and no, there's nothing similar to k-pro for the 06+ civic and probably never will be.

 

ok thanks guys so i guess i will just get the reflash. what are your thoughts on it??

 

I thought Hondata was close to having something for the K20Z3, but it would not be called a kpro. I thought what it would do is give you tuning capability for fuel and timing parameters, I don't know though. Not the full extent of ajustability that the kpro has.

But I have a question of my own.

What is the big deal with the K20Z3? I understand that it uses drive by wire, is that what makes it difficult for Hondata to come up with the KPRO? I don't see why Hondata can't come up with the solution.

Does the kpro for the rsx and older civics do more stuff than say the greddy emanage ultimate?

Because you can you that for our civics and the AEM fuel ignition /controller which is what I used to tune mine because for the time being it is all that's available to tune with. Would i be better off if I could use a KPRO?

 

you do realize that the greddy emanage and the aem fic are piggybacks, and kpro is a full tuning program.

hondata should duplicate the same tuning program that they have for the gti's.

 

Pretty good stuff. From what I read on their website, the cross over is lowered, the redline extended, and hp/tq gains are significant. Overall it would complement the standard bolt-on's nicely.

http://www.hondata.com/reflash_06_civicsi.html

 

I heard the same thing. The last thing I read on their forum, posted by a moderator, was that Hondata had been working on something since September of 2005.

From what I heard the challenge has to do with a few things. It is the DBW and that the engine uses two different mass air sensors. But again, this is just what I heard.

 

Over a year ago, I read on Hondata's website that "K-flash" (as I've heard it nicknamed) was their number 1 priority. They also said they had purchased or borrowed a couple Si's specifically for developing "K-flash". That is the last news I've heard of it from Hondata. Everything else has been heresay. I've been holding out from getting the reflash since my car was new because I was just going to get "K-flash" instead. But the wait has been too long. Hondata has been too busy developing the dual ECU setup for the k20/24 frankenstein motor. Because that's what everybody wants...right. They have probably lost my business.

 

nope

 

just for the record, the max power isn't increased at all, it's only raised in the midrange. you can get the same power and more by downshifting.

well, they do have several reflash's out, dbw and everything, so that doesn't seem to be the problem. i've heard of 2 different possible reasons for them not having anything for the 06+ civic: one is that they'd make more money with things how they are right now (making reflash's for na motors and for superchargers) than by selling fully programmable ecu's like the k-pro. another possible reason is that they haven't figured out a way to keep their software from being copied. i think it's wierd that they won't give an official explanation for the delay.

there have been so many rumors and threads about this on 8thcivic that now it seems like nothing's ever going to come out of it. a thread pops up on 8th pretty regularly talking about how the programmable ecu will come out next month, or next spring, or whatever, and it never does.

 

Hondata them selves posted it will be out this spring or summer so look out for it thats all i can contribute here

 

i definitely will have it when it comes out!

 

Just for the record it is increased, marginal or not an increase nonetheless.

Pit 2 cars against each other with identical modifications and the reflashed car will be faster, yes, including drag racing.

 

thanks kidnkorner. i was gonna say that but i didnt wanna find the pics. you need to spread those pics on 8th as well. a lot of misinfo about the reflash on there too. It does not help tons but still helps.

 

I will be looking for it. I will need it, even if it does cost thousands of dollars.

Given the amount of time, I have to assume the engineering costs are huge. For Hondata to make a decent return on the product, given the expected life of the product, I expect it is going to be very expensive. Let's all just hope it will be worth it.

 

hondata also said that last year but i hope you are right i cant wait.

 

it was supposed to be released at sema i think. im figuring i wont ever need it since i dont plan to do much with my si. maybe a reflash if i do i/h/e

 

Reflash is good, I rode my homies with intake and I had intake but no reflash and his car felt fast by alot. Enough to where you feel it

 

thats good to hear. i dont know anybody wit the relfash wit an 8th gen, but i see a fg wit the hondata license plate all the time. one day im tryin to talk to the dude/chick