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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 11:20 AM
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Default ITR JDM 23mm vs USDM 22mm questions

Will a 23mm make a big difference over the 22mm?
Will the 23mm work properly with the BSQ reinforcement kit?

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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 12:11 PM
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forgot the exact mathematical formula, but yes there should be a noticeable difference with the 23mm up from 22mm
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 12:13 PM
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I swapped out my 22mm for the JDM 23mm. This was on my ITR so I did not need a BSQ kit... but everything is working fine. You will probably need new bracket bushings, but you can re-use the endlink bushings.

As for performance, I believe the increase in diameter of the sway bar results in an EXPONENTIAL growth of what it can do(?? my wording sounds off). There is a formula out there, can't recall how it worked again.

As for personal experience, the tail did seem a BIT more tail happy.
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 12:17 PM
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Default Re: ITR JDM 23mm vs USDM 22mm questions (98R-1144)

When you guys say "tail happy" what do you mean exactly?
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 12:38 PM
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When you guys say "tail happy" what do you mean exactly?
im thinking it has a higher tendency to go out.
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 01:58 PM
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When you guys say "tail happy" what do you mean exactly?


im thinking it has a higher tendency to go out.
exactly!
the initial turn in feels a bit more responsive as well.
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 06:24 PM
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stupid question - are the JDM and USDM front strut tower bar the same exact mm?
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 07:06 PM
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stupid question - are the JDM and USDM front strut tower bar the same exact mm?
We're talking about the REAR LOWER SWAY BAR. Not front/rear upper strut bars.
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 07:21 PM
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JDM ITR and USDM- front strut tower bar is the same bar.

JDM 96spec ITR and USDM ITR- front sway bar is the same. 24mm
JDM 98spec ITR- 25mm

JDM 96spec ITR and USDM ITR- rear sway bar is the same. 22mm
JDM 98spec ITR- 23mm
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 07:26 PM
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forgot the exact mathematical formula, but yes there should be a noticeable difference with the 23mm up from 22mm
I don't have the formula w/ me now, but it's about a 20% increase in stiffness. That's a fair amount from 1mm of increase in diameter.

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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 07:39 PM
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stupid question - are the JDM and USDM front strut tower bar the same exact mm?

We're talking about the REAR LOWER SWAY BAR. Not front/rear upper strut bars.
i know that SMART GUY i just wanted to ask instead of start a whole new topic for a stupid question. THANKS
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 08:44 PM
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got it!

torsional stiffness = (swaybar diameter)^4

so to find how much a bar will increase the stiffness, it's

increase in stiffness = (new diameter / old diameter)^4

ex. (23mm/22mm)^4 = 1.2 so it's a 20% increase

just for kicks:
(22mm/14mm)^4 = 6.1

so the ITR bar is about 6 times stiffer than the stock GSR swaybar
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